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Aug 10th, 2004, 7:59pm
 
can anyone point me in direction of cable suitable for upstairs wiring in a cottage that can support 4 sockets and not be eaten by the odd rodent(s)  that visits in winter.

I do not want to use steel conduit , a nice semi-armoured flexible cable would be great

thanks in advance for any info /  pointers
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Re: thatch and mice
Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2004, 8:16pm
 
PVC conduit, MI, or the steel conduit that you aint fond of  Wink
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Reply #2 - Aug 11th, 2004, 2:26am
 
As Lectrician said, Mineral Insulated cable sounds like a plan  Tongue
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Reply #3 - Aug 11th, 2004, 2:42am
 
steel conduit=thick and very hard to work with
SWA=thick and hard to terminate to badly designed accesories
MICC(pyro)=thin requires special tools to terminate (not really a problem if doing a lot of connections) and hard to terminate to badly designed accesories
PVC conduit=thick but easier to work with than steel

the advantage of conduit is if you use T&E inside you don't have to terminate it to every assesory you can just leave a small gam

wheras with MICC SWA or conduit with singles you are going to have fun terminating it to roses etc without leaving exposed single insulated cores and you will probablly have to fit conduit boxes behind said items
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Reply #4 - Aug 11th, 2004, 2:42am
 
the other advatage of MICC is it contains nothing carbon based so it shouldn't degrade AT ALL
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Reply #5 - Aug 11th, 2004, 5:17am
 
Don't put it on the RCD side of your board if you can avoid it. Can cause nusiance tripping.

Reckon in terms of ease of installation the T&E in PVC conduit is simplest. or just T&E in some mini-trunking.
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Reply #6 - Aug 11th, 2004, 6:10am
 
Just a thought here for comment by the sparks, but couldn't SWA (armoured cable) be used in this situation? It gets used to run cables down to garden sheds etc - might be a bit thick and might not go round corners particularly well, but under the circumstances might offer a solution?

SWA has a wire mesh around the conductive parts.

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Reply #7 - Aug 11th, 2004, 7:17am
 
Could be. Many lugs, boxes and terms to do though, so would be a bit OTT, unless the're real monsters in that attic. If you use T&E mini-trunking or oval conduit cliped direct, you just butt it up to the accessories or run it through the rubber gromits, quick & easy.
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Reply #8 - Aug 11th, 2004, 10:53am
 
swa is bloody thick though so it would be a pita for switch drops

i've seen a 1.5mm swa and a 6mm swa next to each other and they look near identical in size (both 3 core)
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Re: thatch and mice
Reply #9 - Aug 11th, 2004, 10:35pm
 
Why not try Oflex or SY cable? Very flexible, comes in many sizes, has a flexible steel braid and is clear-pvc coated.

You still have a termination problem though with  glanding etc.



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Re: thatch and mice
Reply #10 - Aug 13th, 2004, 2:20am
 
2 days later, but PVC Conduit sounds like the best option after MICC, Oval Or Round, Light Or Heavy Gage, High Impact etc.

Does the job for me  Wink
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