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Sep 27th, 2005, 6:46pm
 
Not the ones often used by flashers, the kind that goes over paint for a harder wear.  What can I use?

I'm building a wardrobe/unit thing in the kids bedroom from MDF and intend to paint(emulsion) it to match the multi-pastel colour scheme of their room. However since I have kids that tend to break/mangle/destroy/gouge/mankify things I want a hard wearing clear top coat to finish the furniture off.

What do y'all suggest?


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Reply #1 - Sep 27th, 2005, 7:43pm
 
Finish it in eggshell (oil based) paint.

That will give you a fairly hard wearing paint. You will be able to wash it and get grubby little fingermarks off o.k.

But if you do want a clear top coat, go for it, it might just alter the finish colour a little bit though.

Having just read that, I'm not sure it was that helpful.  Undecided

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Reply #2 - Sep 27th, 2005, 8:00pm
 
i suppose i could take in samples to B&Q for colourmatching in eggshell. If this proves a non-starter( missthekid is line manager on this one) what clear coats are available that are any good?


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Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2005, 10:30pm
 
Hi Billy, I'm new to this forum and this is my first post so...you are my debut.
I agree with Hamilton...go for eggshell. Emulsion as you rightly say will attract dirt and marks and you can top coat it if you want but it will darken the colour of the emulsion as Hamilton says and you will have a very inferior finish IMHO.
Prime (my rec. would be Zinsser 123), sand, fill and caulk, then 2 coats eggshell, sanding between coats. You'll get a durable finish. All Dulux colours (well all those from B&Q and the like) come in eggshell as well as emulsion, just take the code or name of the paint and ask for it in eggshell.
If determined to go with emulsion prime first then overcaot with a good quality acryic varnish..I've heard that Ronseal do a good one.
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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2005, 4:14pm
 
Hiya Cait, welcome to the forum.  Grin
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Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2005, 4:18pm
 
BTK. Forget B&Q and the sheds, you don't want a nine year old poncing around with your paint.

Go to a trade shop with a sample of the colour you want, (paint some on a piece of lining paper, and let it dry) and they will more than likely have a magic eye which will give a formula for the nice man in the shop to make it for you.
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Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2005, 11:37pm
 
Cheers Hamilton, thanks for the welcome. I agree about the big box stores...I never buy paint there. Once I had to show a client how different  Dulux paint was from the Trade centre in comparison to the c**p from B&Q...I kept the samples, it doesn't need much explaining now.

One of the things that I always tell clients is that paint, in comparison to every other item in their house per sq metre is the cheapest thing they will ever buy for their home...so buy the best, the difference is pennies per sq metre.
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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2005, 10:51pm
 
cheers y'all, and welcome to the forum paintycait, I see you do specialist effects stuff from yer site. You dont do those night-scenes that are almost invisible by day but glow up in an intergalactic display at night time, and if you do whats the magic stuff used, the wee man would love something like that... will look for a link.....


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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2005, 10:57pm
 
http://www.superstarsceilings.net/

excuse the kleeneze-ness of it! lol

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Reply #9 - Sep 30th, 2005, 2:58pm
 
[quote author=billythekid  link=1127843199/0#7 date=1128030665]and if you do whats the magic stuff used,

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Glenlivet 12 year old.  Wink
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Reply #10 - Oct 4th, 2005, 4:02am
 
Billy Billy Billy Billy. Tile the walls. its perfect . use epoxy grout because epoxy it stainless. and the laundry detergent with the blue specs as we talked about previous so grout joints will glow in the dark and your kids will think you are the greatest dad in the world. lol Grin actually I went to superstars sight, I think thats pretty neat. phosphates makes things glow in the dark
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Reply #11 - Oct 4th, 2005, 4:06am
 
[quote author=billythekid  link=1127843199/0#7 date=1128030665]cheers y'all, and welcome to the forum paintycait, I see you do specialist effects stuff from yer site. You dont do those night-scenes that are almost invisible by day but glow up in an intergalactic display at night time, and if you do whats the magic stuff used, the wee man would love something like that... will look for a link.....


btk [/quote]BTW they sale plastic glo in the dark stars and moons and etc. do you'all have wal=marts. they also sale glo in the dark cans of spray paints and chalk board paints too. Go to a craft store ours here has everything you can imagine. let me know if you cant find them I will send you some for your kids. or you can get a black light. I had one back in my hippy days.lol
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Reply #12 - Oct 4th, 2005, 8:26pm
 
lol, flower power, dont tell ray you are a free lover!

i dont want those plastic stars n stuff, they are more than a little tacky dontcha think, as for the washing powder in the tile grout, does that work?? would be cool to try that.

Feel free to send me anything, that goes to everyone btw!


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Re: Overcoat
Reply #13 - Oct 5th, 2005, 7:11am
 
Billy IMHO this is the best clear varnish for painting over emulsion. I've used  it for years and never had any come backs, not cheap but a little goes a long way.

http://www.polyvine.com/decorating_varnish.asp

I usually use the matt, or dead flat as they call it, and you can't tell the paint has been overcoated.

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Reply #14 - Oct 5th, 2005, 1:34pm
 
Years ago I used a two part clear finish called Hardcoat. You mixed the two parts together and painted it on. It was very transparent. The same stuff was sold under the name Tufcoat and was used on RC model aircraft to protect the regular paint from attack from Methanol, Nitromethane and oil in the fuel. Not sure if it still exists?
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Re: Overcoat
Reply #15 - Oct 5th, 2005, 9:43pm
 
thanks for all the advice guys, you rock!

I made the mistake this week of mentioning that B&Q had conti board in stock the same colour as the girls' chests of drawers. guess what the thing is being made from now...


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