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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #17 - Jun 25th, 2004, 9:23pm
 
Personally for crafty types of work I would get a scroll saw (from £35 in SF), cant be beaten for intricate scroll work, name plates or kids toys such as jigsaws and animals.
For the top of arched doors and the like I would use a jigsaw to rough out then make a guide and use a router  for a top quality finish.

But as I'm only a novice with wood I may be talking out my arse! metal is my real love.
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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #18 - Jun 25th, 2004, 11:43pm
 
thanks for that mice

and no your not talking out you ring piece
your oppinion is apreciated

i find with a jigsaw the undercut is a pain

and with a band saw you can cut nearer
to the line and the cut is square to the face
or thats the theory Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin
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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #19 - Jun 25th, 2004, 11:46pm
 
Heeellllooooo Big_All !!

With your budget get the Axminster I would say, m8, but I have no experience of that machine. I have the Clarke you mention and it bogs down at 80mm cutting depth unless you go sssssssllllooooooowwwwww so don't know what the 350w Axminster would be like..

The bed on the Clarke is rough n ready aluminium but can easily be sorted with a bit of TLC, the cutout/insert round the blade lets small offcuts drop into the main body of the machine resulting in a snapped blade most often (again easily sorted) and keeping the bed flat and stable needs a little bit of attention but no big deal...

As mentioned by Dewy re: the blade guides on the Ferm I can happily say the one's on the Clarke are fine (once set up correctly LOL)... Also, and this may put a perspective on the whole thing, I only paid £80 for mine...

A decent blade costs bout £11 from my local supplier (Carlisle Glass - yes Sir, we can get any size you require, Sir, takes about 3 days, Sir) and transforms the saw quite drastically - well worth the extra £6 over the Clarke replacement which I keep as a spare.

A tip I was told but haven't tried yet is to round off the back edge ie non-cutting edge of the blade with a file/oilstone/whatever whilst running the saw - this lessens the chance of snagging the blade when cutting curves apparently.. anyone done this mod?

Hope this helps, but I don't think I'd have got the Clarke if it was gonna cost me £112 :p

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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #20 - Jun 25th, 2004, 11:54pm
 
A while ago I machined a plate to screw to the bottom of a jigsaw with a slot that was 1mm wider  than the blade (to allow for waste) for a friend who was making some kids bedroom furniture out of conitboard.  This almost entirely eliminated the chipping.  Easy to do if you have access to a bridgeport. Smiley
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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #21 - Jun 26th, 2004, 12:11am
 
I wish I still had access to a Bridgeport.
I could make it sing. Grin
I can think of a number of jigs & accessories I would like that I could make accurately on it.
Better still I would love to get hold of one with imperial screws before they ruined them with 5 & 2½ mil lead screws.
best 'router' I ever used. Wink
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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2004, 12:15am
 
Nice one Mice, my solution was less elegant LOL but haven't got round to doing the same as yourself which is the ideal solution... I fully intend to do so soon.

My "FIX" was some well strategically placed duck tape to narrow the opening round the cutting edge and it works a treat. Forgot to mention BTW that I also removed some of the casing directly below the blade and underneath the down pulley so that any chips (and sawdust which isnt a problem re: blade snagging) now doesn't accumulate inside the saw housing, but instead gets fired straight onto the floor, or in my case, a well positioned bucket!

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SHould clarify really..... the insert round the blade on the Clarke bandsaw is large enough to let a 9mm cube to fall into the "workings" - result = snapped blade...
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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #23 - Jun 26th, 2004, 12:23am
 
heeelllooo doc
ive got a vat free voucher till the 10 th julyand the
book is two years old so assuming it hasnt gone up its
[or gone down in price]its£95

and how do you round of the back
if you lightly hold and move emiry round the back
whilst its rotating its going to ware away the
roller at the back as it gets carried round
on the blade Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Jun 26th, 2004, 12:25am
 
LMAO!! I'm assuming your winding me up lol! If not, just grab the emery cloth harder m8  Grin

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Reply #25 - Jun 26th, 2004, 12:27am
 
no i think its called death wish 5 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes:Smiley
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Reply #26 - Jun 26th, 2004, 12:34am
 
You know why its called a "banned"! saw now then....

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PS Sent you a Personal Message and can we make it a threesome next time  Grin
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Reply #27 - Jun 26th, 2004, 1:14am
 
when it comes to msn mike i cant even
manage a onesome  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #28 - Jun 26th, 2004, 2:24am
 
big all
I just looked at those 2 bandsaws.
The Clarke is just a benchtop with 345x345 aluminium table. It has no fence for ripping. The price on the 'net is a bit less than you quoted.
The Axminster is a different kettle of fish with the 340x320 cast iron table. Floorstanding or benchtop as the legs come with it.
I'd go for the Axminster but get a better blade for it.
A decent blade will make it twice the tool.
Rutlands do blades for £8.95 or you could get someone to weld blades up to correct length.
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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #29 - Jun 26th, 2004, 2:54am
 
If you know anyone who works in a machine shop with a decent sized bandsaw it will most probably have a blade welder on the machine itself.  Its got to be worth a few pints to get them to knock you a few up on their lunch break if you supply the reel of blade.
Worth a thought. Wink
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Reply #30 - Jun 26th, 2004, 3:14am
 
A few pints for a couple of minutes welding, grinding & annealing a blade?
It would be worth it if they could get a couple of blades out in their lunch boxes. Wink Grin
Fortunately wood blades don't take as much pressure as when cutting steel so can be soldered instead of needing welding. It's cheaper to buy a reel of blade then cut & silver solder it yourself.
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Re: band saw for light use
Reply #31 - Jun 26th, 2004, 3:29am
 
I see.  With the quality of my soldering/brazing it would only go round once then jam up. Grin

Surely youre a shift worker like me, up at this hour.
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Reply #32 - Jun 26th, 2004, 3:48am
 
I gave up turning the handles years ago.
I work with wood now but still miss my old Bridgeport, it's a bit too big for my garage though or I'd get a second hand one like a shot.
I used to make my woodworking jigs on the mill during breaks. On a lifetimes nightshift you get far more breaks than on days because there is noone breathing down your neck so you can do the work in less time. Wink
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Reply #33 - Jun 26th, 2004, 3:54am
 
Tis true,
Very boring at times though especiall as my shift mate has gone Tom Dick.
Spent the whole night researching going self employed.
Now have about 200 pages from the inland revenue to trawl through! Shocked
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