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commercial property,rules & regs.
Jul 14th, 2004, 2:46pm
 
My problem is my wife Grin (is n't it always!)She works in an office 'inbetween' 2 others and so recieves no natural light.The office at present has a couple of tubes behind a suspended ceiling with a few of the tiles removed to let what light there is out.Now her boss is a real tight *rse and has basically asked if i can do it,(whatever 'it' is)my problems are twofold.1) what would you suggest for better lighting?,2)even if i wanted to do this work (i dont ,and i dont see as i should just to save the tight wad some money) would i be forbidden by any regs on working in commercial property?(hopefully so!) Wink
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Reply #1 - Jul 14th, 2004, 4:14pm
 
Cat2 aluminium reflectors fitted flush to Tbar grid, with a recessed modular fitting behind.

Depends on room size, but 4 tube versions are the best, maybe 2 of them??
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Reply #2 - Jul 14th, 2004, 4:15pm
 
Nothing to stop you as yet........

Are you competant??
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Reply #3 - Jul 14th, 2004, 5:40pm
 
What test kit have ou got in use? This will be covered by the EAW regulations so you'll have to do the job according to those and it'll have to end up in a state where it's use complies with the same. The tight ring may not know that he's fully responsable for employing people of who are competent and properly equipped to do the job.

This doesn't mean you aren't competent in other areas of electrical work, just you may not be for this job. Like I can't really work on the petrol station decomissioning job I was offered last week, until the 'ex' specialists have made it safe and signed it off as decomissioned with the local authority first. Money would have been good, but no way Jose unless I were 'ex' trained.

If you do go for it you'll need to bone up on the lux factor required for the type of premises etc. At least the geezer is dealing with the situation ....... after a fashion.
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Reply #4 - Jul 14th, 2004, 6:33pm
 
just as a side thought, when you do any work on electrics do you have to assume responsibiltiy for the rest of the installation?
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Reply #5 - Jul 14th, 2004, 11:55pm
 
You do but this is open to interpretation it seems. mainly only your work, you can and can only really be responsible for your own work altho there are a few exceptions.

The lighting, you will find if they have to use Visual Display Unit (VDU/VDT) as part of there work then the employer has to have adequate and suitable lighting, and this applies to exsisting workplaces aswel.

What lectrician suggested is the normal proceudure for office lighting now and this would be the route to look at for a lighting.

Finnaly from experience if it's a fairly standard size celing with regard to tiles should be no problem, but I have come accross places that slightly differ and the Light Fittings were less than desirible and it was a days work just for 3 units so watch out.

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Reply #6 - Jul 23rd, 2004, 8:27pm
 
Thanks for the advice chaps.I would consider myself 'competent ' in basic installations and anything 'of the norm' but as beanzy asks i have not got ,or could even contemplate testing Grin.Actually went to look at the office today and although the actual wiring and connections looked well within my capabilities,the fact that the 'suspended/false ceiling is actually screwed to the flat roof joists and the existing lighting (2x double florrys) are thus screwed to the side of the joists,facing sideways! ??? I therefore have know idea what his options are,there is literally no room to even get my fat fingers in to change the faulty tube Shocked But i have at least told the missus that  ,although i might be capable of doing something(what,i dont know!) it is not down to me to do it,its up to her boss .The missus has now 'had it out' with him Cry and included the advice you lot have given,ie testing  legal lighting requirements etc,and when the bosses partner returns from his hols' has promised to refit and rewire the office.(we 'll see!!!!!) Once again,thanks for all your help and advice,its been most useful.(even if it is to just shut the wifes moaning up!)
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Reply #7 - Jul 23rd, 2004, 11:12pm
 
yeah, hopefully he will get a electrician in to fit some more modern, and suitable lighting fittings trowel  Smiley
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Reply #8 - Sep 23rd, 2004, 10:03pm
 
the lux levels in a office is around 500 to 600 hundred all depending on what bussiness it is.

ps i no this question was sucessfully answered, but i just thought i would comment just incase other peeps is reading and needs an idea cheers supra
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Reply #9 - Sep 26th, 2004, 8:45pm
 
There is, or at least used to be, an HSE publication solely on VDUs.  It's horrifying what any employer is obliged to provide for his staff if they operate VDUs on a regular, or prolonged basis.  You can get a copy from most decent bookstores for £6.  I remember one bit about providing uv glasses (sun glasses) to protect the operator's eyes.  There's tonnes about adequate lighting, glare, wrist support, seating lighting from windows.... Honestly get a copy and give to your wife's boss and watch him fall out his own ar5se.
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Reply #10 - Sep 27th, 2004, 6:38pm
 
Yep, I have a copy of that RES, not really shocking as to provide, as it should be provided, I think the VDU paper is just regarding screens and suitable lighting, not sure if it had information of wrist/palm support and what chairs would be suitable to relieve any strain etc.
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