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Reply #17 - Nov 25th, 2004, 10:52pm
 
Make and model of boiler is required.

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Reply #18 - Nov 26th, 2004, 1:24am
 
scruff, it's an NY Thermal, Legacy L-150 boiler.


Bripl, why do you say that it would be more cost effective to convert to a two pipe system?  Isn't the bypass simply a matter of a couple of T's and a bypass valve?

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Reply #19 - Nov 26th, 2004, 3:31pm
 
yes it is just a few tees and a valve but how will you regulate it a good condensor will save money only if the controls/sys are set up correctly,you would not fit an f1 engine in a road car without carrying out a few safety upgrades would you?
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Reply #20 - Nov 26th, 2004, 6:27pm
 
Vic, There's something amiss here.

Assuming that this is a Condensing Boiler, I don't understand why it requires the return water temperature to be a MINIMUM of 160 degrees F.

Condensing boilers usually require a LOW return water temperature which facilitates the condensation of the flue gases on the cold return water end of the Heat exchanger.

In DHW mode, the primary circuit is diverted through the DHW Heat exchanger so maling the temperature of the return from the Heating Circuit irrelevant.

The Bypass is usually used to maintain some circulation through the Primary Heat Exchanger when the heating zone valves ot TRV's shut down so that the water doesn't boil in the Primary Heat Exchanger.
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Reply #21 - Nov 26th, 2004, 6:33pm
 
What has gone wrong is the lack of detail, I.E. this is an American boiler and installations are completely different to ours.

Yes you need a bye-pass line and valve which should be sited close to the flow and connect to the return on the input side of the pump.

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Reply #22 - Nov 26th, 2004, 7:29pm
 
So sorry guys, I should have stated up front that this boiler is Canadian made for use here in Canada.


The reason the manufacturer wants the return temp. maintained at 160 F. is to prolong life of the steel boiler and to be able to provide hot water thru the domestic tankless coil in the boiler.

So, now that I'm being understood clearly, does anyone have a plumbing diagram or link that would illustrate how the bypass would best be piped?

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Re: Boiler bypass plumbing diagram
Reply #23 - Nov 26th, 2004, 7:40pm
 
[quote author=Victorious1_1  link=1101318798/15#22 date=1101497376]So sorry guys, I should have stated up front that this boiler is Canadian made for use here in Canada.


The reason the manufacturer wants the return temp. maintained at 160 F. is to prolong life of the steel boiler and to be able to provide hot water thru the domestic tankless coil in the boiler.

So, now that I'm being understood clearly, does anyone have a plumbing diagram or link that would illustrate how the bypass would best be piped?

Vic [/quote]

No probs I had a sneeky feeling we were'nt talking England, Name that boiler and all is clear.

http://www.nythermal.com/Products/boilers/gas/legacy.htm

or send me an email and I'll post the pdf installation guide.

Ps, the reason for the high return temp is to keep the boiler above dhw temperature and to avoid corrosion.

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Reply #24 - Nov 27th, 2004, 2:04am
 
Thanks a lot guys, especially you scruff, very much appreciated.  I'll let you know how it all works out in the end.

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Reply #25 - Nov 27th, 2004, 10:15am
 
Have noticed the drawing in one part is wrong on their site

perhaps you should email, and i will correct it.

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Reply #26 - Nov 27th, 2004, 11:01pm
 
You've got mail scruff, thank you.

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