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En suite for beginners
Jul 12th, 2015, 6:37pm
 
Converting a small bedroom cupboard into a ensuite.  

shower will be at one end soil stack is at other end floor is 1st floor joists, so i think waste from shower will have to go in boxwork.  

Is something like a Mra flight adjustable height tray the sort of thing i need?
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2015, 10:20pm
 
Yes they are very good for the type of install you are planing.

Make sure you have something solid for the legs to fix too.
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #2 - Jul 13th, 2015, 8:18pm
 
I was planning on 18mm WBP ply for the floor.

I was thinking of one of these with two upstands (only 1 will be used):

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/mira-flight-adjustable-height-2987-28177

I take it i dont need a riser kit as its adjustable? also i says walk on waste is that all thats needed for the waste? want to get all the bits so the first fix plumbing is a bit easier!

Having a electric shower as already have one thermostatic upstairs, managed to pick up a mira sportmax with air boost from b and q for £199.
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #3 - Jul 13th, 2015, 10:33pm
 
The riser kit is sold as a seperate item (extra) ask the supplier what you get other than the tray and waste.

I would normally build a wooden frame, ply and bed the tray on that.
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #4 - Jul 15th, 2015, 12:46pm
 
I used a Myra riser kit not long ago, £50 ish from Plumbcenter. It was incredibly quick and easy to fit and made leveling the tray a breeze. It also allows easy access underneath for fitting/servicing the waste, whereas a wooden frame completely hinders this operation. It will go quite high but the side panels are a fixed height so you may need a glossed batten to fit them to.
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Reply #5 - Jul 17th, 2015, 11:27am
 
What's on the ground floor? Depending on how much work it is you could drop the waste through the floor and run it under the joists in boxing or install a false ceiling.
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #6 - Sep 16th, 2015, 4:34pm
 
Finally got around to ordering a couple of bits the shower tray and riser kit.  So hopefully soon i will get it first fixed and the floor down.  
Trying to find a sink small enough to go in there which is proving tough.  
As im having box work run below the sink is the best way to go having the pipes chased in the wall and having a exposed chrome trap? will make it feel a bit bigger with  floor clear under the sink?
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Reply #7 - Sep 16th, 2015, 4:34pm
 
below is lounge and dining room with finished ceiling so no chance of anything going there.
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #8 - Oct 6th, 2015, 5:17pm
 
finally had some progress have the floor plyed 18mm WBP, purchased the tray, riser kit and sink, hopefully getting the first fix done soon.  

Any ideas for nice tiling designs to make the room a bit more fancy, its really small so want the tiling to detract from the size???!!!!

i may have a bash at the tiling myself, if i do i think a ditra mat type thing ight be useful as the room sits on overshot joists so likely to move more!
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #9 - Nov 22nd, 2015, 6:09pm
 
1st fixed, boxing done and plasterborded, tiles chosen.  

I insulated under the floor in there when i had access, I was thinking about insulating under the shower tray as ive used a riser kit, more for sound deadening, nothing wrong with that is there?
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #10 - Nov 23rd, 2015, 9:14am
 
wozzy wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015, 6:09pm:
1st fixed, boxing done and plasterborded, tiles chosen.  

I insulated under the floor in there when i had access, I was thinking about insulating under the shower tray as ive used a riser kit, more for sound deadening, nothing wrong with that is there?


None whatsoevery wozzy  Smiley
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Reply #11 - Nov 24th, 2015, 10:05am
 
cheers will hopefully get on with that today
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Reply #12 - Dec 17th, 2015, 9:11pm
 
Tiled and i will be attempting the second fix myself.  

Quick question, soil comes out the floor its about its about 70mm i think off the wall due to a joist in the way, its boxed in now and the toilet will be sitting a couple of inches off the is a flexible pan connector my only option? is there any problem with them over such a short distance (not much more than the width of the toilet)?
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Re: En suite for beginners
Reply #13 - Dec 18th, 2015, 10:57am
 
Avoid flexibles where possible, you can get ? shape pan connectors the should take up the distance. Have a look on the McAlpine web site
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