Ask The Trades - Print Page

Ask The Trades
https://www.askthetrades.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl DIY Forum >> Plumbing Questions >> En suite for beginners https://www.askthetrades.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1436722649 Message started by wozzy on Jul 12^th, 2015, 6:37pm

Title: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Jul 12^th, 2015, 6:37pm

Converting a small bedroom cupboard into a ensuite.

shower will be at one end soil stack is at other end floor is 1st floor joists, so i think waste from shower will have to go in boxwork.

Is something like a Mra flight adjustable height tray the sort of thing i need?

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by thescruff on Jul 12^th, 2015, 10:20pm

Yes they are very good for the type of install you are planing.

Make sure you have something solid for the legs to fix too.

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Jul 13^th, 2015, 8:18pm

I was planning on 18mm WBP ply for the floor.

I was thinking of one of these with two upstands (only 1 will be used):

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/mira-flight-adjustable-height-2987-28177

I take it i dont need a riser kit as its adjustable? also i says walk on waste is that all thats needed for the waste? want to get all the bits so the first fix plumbing is a bit easier!

Having a electric shower as already have one thermostatic upstairs, managed to pick up a mira sportmax with air boost from b and q for £199.

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by thescruff on Jul 13^th, 2015, 10:33pm

The riser kit is sold as a seperate item (extra) ask the supplier what you get other than the tray and waste.

I would normally build a wooden frame, ply and bed the tray on that.

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by Headrush on Jul 15^th, 2015, 12:46pm

I used a Myra riser kit not long ago, £50 ish from Plumbcenter. It was incredibly quick and easy to fit and made leveling the tray a breeze. It also allows easy access underneath for fitting/servicing the waste, whereas a wooden frame completely hinders this operation. It will go quite high but the side panels are a fixed height so you may need a glossed batten to fit them to.

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by CWatters on Jul 17^th, 2015, 11:27am

What's on the ground floor? Depending on how much work it is you could drop the waste through the floor and run it under the joists in boxing or install a false ceiling.

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Sep 16^th, 2015, 4:34pm

Finally got around to ordering a couple of bits the shower tray and riser kit. So hopefully soon i will get it first fixed and the floor down.
Trying to find a sink small enough to go in there which is proving tough.
As im having box work run below the sink is the best way to go having the pipes chased in the wall and having a exposed chrome trap? will make it feel a bit bigger with floor clear under the sink?

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Sep 16^th, 2015, 4:34pm

below is lounge and dining room with finished ceiling so no chance of anything going there.

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Oct 6^th, 2015, 5:17pm

finally had some progress have the floor plyed 18mm WBP, purchased the tray, riser kit and sink, hopefully getting the first fix done soon.

Any ideas for nice tiling designs to make the room a bit more fancy, its really small so want the tiling to detract from the size???!!!!

i may have a bash at the tiling myself, if i do i think a ditra mat type thing ight be useful as the room sits on overshot joists so likely to move more!

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Nov 22^nd, 2015, 6:09pm

1st fixed, boxing done and plasterborded, tiles chosen.

I insulated under the floor in there when i had access, I was thinking about insulating under the shower tray as ive used a riser kit, more for sound deadening, nothing wrong with that is there?

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by thescruff on Nov 23^rd, 2015, 9:14am

wozzy wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015, 6:09pm:

None whatsoevery wozzy [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Nov 24^th, 2015, 10:05am

cheers will hopefully get on with that today

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by wozzy on Dec 17^th, 2015, 9:11pm

Tiled and i will be attempting the second fix myself.

Quick question, soil comes out the floor its about its about 70mm i think off the wall due to a joist in the way, its boxed in now and the toilet will be sitting a couple of inches off the is a flexible pan connector my only option? is there any problem with them over such a short distance (not much more than the width of the toilet)?

Title: Re: En suite for beginners
Post by thescruff on Dec 18^th, 2015, 10:57am

Avoid flexibles where possible, you can get ? shape pan connectors the should take up the distance. Have a look on the McAlpine web site