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Title: Foward Planning Post by Bob on Oct 18th, 2006, 9:49pm Evening all, I'm having an extension built onto the end of my house, garage downstairs, 2 bedrooms above. I'm planning to put/have put pipes for central heating under the flooring so when I've got enough funding (after the builders bleed me dry + then some) the floors don't have to come up again to fit central heating. Would any of you plumber types hazzard a guess to how much I'd be looking at paying a chap to design the system and basically tell me where to put the pipes in and what size (and anything else I'd need under there). Even if I cut the holes + 'dry' lay the pipes in for a man with blowtorch to glue them together. (Although I've done quite a bit of pipe soldering and haven't had a leaking one yet - touch wood :D). Cheers |
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Title: Re: Foward Planning Post by JerryD on Oct 19th, 2006, 8:41pm wrote on Oct 18th, 2006, 9:49pm:
I'd do it for £300 + vat :D Quote:
No plumber will want to solder together pipes you've prepared. Have you had any quotes yet for 'first fix', you may find it's not as expensive as you feared? :) |
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Title: Re: Foward Planning Post by Bob on Oct 19th, 2006, 9:25pm wrote on Oct 19th, 2006, 8:41pm:
Without seeming rude why not? I use a auto pipe splicer (same as you guys) and he/she would I'm sure slip off the fitting to give a quick clean, put the flux on and check a nice clean cut and that the pipe goes all the way into the fitting. Is there any other reason or is that just the way it is? :-? |
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Title: Re: Foward Planning Post by JerryD on Oct 19th, 2006, 10:04pm One reason is "who's to blame if there's a leak"? Another reason is that to prepare all the pipework without any soldering 'as you go' will make it next to impossible to do. Sections are usually cut and soldered and they become 'fixed' and then work further down the line does not cause this first section to fall apart, which it will if not soldered together. Unless you've done this type of work you may not appreciate what I'm saying :-/ Another reason is that a plumber will charge you for his whole day whether he's just soldering together your pipework or cutting and installing it himself. If you feel that you can do the pipework, why get a plumber in at all? |
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Title: Re: Foward Planning Post by Simes on Oct 19th, 2006, 11:38pm Why don't you investigate doing it all yourself in Speedfit? No soldering required, easier pipe runs etc, just use copper tails sticking up to make it look right when you fit the rads. If it were me, I'd leave the final fitting until you buy the rads, ie leave a trapdoor in the floorboards where you anticipate the rad position, then fit the rad and pipe neatly downwards to the waiting speedfit under the floor. Good luck! Simes. |
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Title: Re: Foward Planning Post by Bob on Oct 20th, 2006, 9:38pm Doing the pipework (ie. cutting soldering + fixing) isn't the problem it's knowing what size pipe needs putting where, best place for a boiler, ventalation and flue, rad sizes etc. As for speedfit they are a new version of what we have been using for compressed air fittings for years, and in my time seen quite a few leak once the o ring goes hard or if the pipe is pulling against one side (that's the air fittings not speedfit pipes!). I know they have got alot better over the years but I think I'd still favour the copper + solder method. Cheers |
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Title: Re: Foward Planning Post by thescruff on Oct 21st, 2006, 11:07am Why not hire a consultant to oversee the jwork. That way you get to do all the work, except the gas and he can then commission the appliance. Sticking with copper is a good plan. Far better. |
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