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Title: legal
Post by oldspark on Jul 25^th, 2009, 10:30pm

I've been an industrial sparky for 32 years . It is unavoidable not to do domestic work over that time. With the recent big changes I have acquired 16th edition and 2391 inspect and test am i legal for doing domestic house rewires or do I have to be with a govening body?
CAN I SELF CERTIFICATE MY WORK?

Title: Re: legal
Post by Y3 on Jul 25^th, 2009, 11:36pm

You either have to be with a scheme, NICEIC etc... Or building control need to be notified before work commences, by the person who wants the work done.

Title: Re: legal
Post by oldspark on Jul 26^th, 2009, 10:44pm

Can I then self cert or do building control over see my work. By the way am not being paid for this work as it is for the inlaws.

Title: Re: legal
Post by Zambezi on Jul 27^th, 2009, 10:41am

Even if you were doing it on your own property you would have to notify building control.
You notify them, explaining what you want to do,
They inspect your first fix,
You plaster over cables etc,
Then they inspect second fix,
They should then instruct a "competent" firm to come in and inspect your work and issue a cert.
Not all councils are the same, so you would need to check with them.
To notify my local BC it costs about £100+VAT.

Title: Re: legal
Post by wozzy on Jul 27^th, 2009, 12:08pm

thats cheap, i think my LABC will charge £170 for any notification for works costing less than £5k.

Title: Re: legal
Post by Zambezi on Jul 27^th, 2009, 1:17pm

To be honest I have not asked them for about 8 months, so it could well have changed :-?

Title: Re: legal
Post by londonman on Jul 28^th, 2009, 6:27am

wrote on Jul 25^th, 2009, 10:30pm:

...... With the recent big changes I have acquired 16th edition and 2391 inspect .....

Aren't we on 17th edition now? ;D

Title: Re: legal
Post by Twobarrows on Jul 31^st, 2009, 10:30pm

wrote on Jul 26^th, 2009, 10:44pm:

Can I then self cert or do building control over see my work. By the way am not being paid for this work as it is for the inlaws.

Just do it & keep schtum! Unless you want to shell out that extra money that gives you, errr, well, umm, a lighter walllet, and nothing else.
Just remember 17th ed. has dual RCD CU.

Title: Re: legal
Post by howlingdog on Aug 21^st, 2009, 1:02pm

It is illegal not to notify any work covered by Part P. Building control will not give an Installation certificate and no third party can.

A third party can issue a PIR for the work.

The building control can only give a work completion certificate.

Not to comply can lead to a jail term...your call!

Rob

Title: Re: legal
Post by Zambezi on Aug 21^st, 2009, 11:00pm

I would like to see them try, Part P is so full of holes, it is a joke.
I take it by your post that you are registered with one of the scams sorry schemes?

Title: Re: legal
Post by howlingdog on Aug 23^rd, 2009, 8:28pm

I'm not registered with any of the schemes re Part P. To be honest they, do a better job on the pockets of electricians then a Hover ever could.

I used to be Head of the Part P team for a local gov. office in Wales.

All that was needed was to make it illegal for non-qualified electricians (say with 16th/2391 and or 2400) to do any electrical work in domestic prems.

:)

Title: Re: legal
Post by dingbat on Aug 23^rd, 2009, 9:33pm

HD, why have you dragged up a stack of ancient threads (this one excluded)?

Too much time on your hands?
;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: legal
Post by howlingdog on Aug 26^th, 2009, 7:16am

You just wait lads...the unemployed will rule the world... and I will be king! :)