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Title: Halstead Eden Vb boiler keeps turning itself off.
Post by Lizzie on Dec 27^th, 2010, 2:16pm

Since the snow arrived. My condensing boiler keeps turning itself off. It's in the garage and there's a water pipe that goes outside to a drain, I've cleared the snow from around this.
I called a plumber out just before Christmas and he said it was probably an air lock and bled all the radiators. This hasn't solved the problem and its getting worse.
It looks like the boiler is leaking inside the garage, plumber said this was because the outside pipe was frozen and the water has nowhere to go and it needed plumbing into a waste inside the garage. He said this was a problem with Halstead boilers and I may need a new one! It's four years old.
The error code showing is F1, although F4 showed last night.
Help please

Title: Re: Halstead Eden Vb boiler keeps turning itself off.
Post by CWatters on Dec 27^th, 2010, 4:45pm

I don't know if error code F1 means the condensate drain is frozen but sounds like it might be. It's a common problem with many makes of boiler but it can be avoided. For starters any section of the pipe outdoors should be of sufficient size and insulated. Many plumbers use too small a pipe which makes it prone to freezing.

Watch this video from another boiler manufacturer ...

http://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/homeowner/customer-service/common-winter-boiler-enquiries

Routing the pipe to a drain indoors is a good solution IF there is a drain handy. If there isn't then it's an expensive option. Other solutions such as enlarging the pipe, insulating it or perhaps installing a pipe heater might be easier.

Title: Re: Halstead Eden Vb boiler keeps turning itself off.
Post by CWatters on Dec 27^th, 2010, 4:54pm

I'm not sure I would use British Gas but see also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSMx8GoD01Q

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=condensate+pipe+frozen&aq=f

Title: Re: Halstead Eden Vb boiler keeps turning itself off.
Post by Lizzie on Dec 27^th, 2010, 5:28pm

Thank you for that. I've looked at the videos.
I did try to buy some pipe lagging but everywhere was sold out. I've made some of my own for outside with newspaper, cardboard and plastic bags and bubble wrap- better than nothing. (Working on the old school insulating drinks problem)
I'll have to see if it works.
The boiler's shut itself down four times today already!
Thanks again

Title: Re: Halstead Eden Vb boiler keeps turning itself off.
Post by juco on Dec 29^th, 2010, 10:38pm

I am not an engineer but have had similar problems in the cold weather, as mine is also in the garage I just pull the hose where it connects to go through the wall to the soakaway and reconnect when the weather gets warmer.

Being untrusting I suspect he is touting for business.

Title: Re: Halstead Eden Vb boiler keeps turning itself off.
Post by greg on Dec 31^st, 2010, 1:20pm

juco wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010, 10:38pm:

Being untrusting I suspect he is touting for business.

Than again, it is a Halstead ;)