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Title: miricle of door trimming
Post by big_all on Jun 2^nd, 2004, 12:40am

today i would like to thank

who ever planted the seed of using a bickie joiner
to trim a door cos it is sooo eeasy
now for my purpose it was a little late
but still used it
it left an slightly large gap cos i had already laid the
laminate floor
i suspect if you run the bickie joiner along the floor
before you lay the laminate it going to be a good fit

im not shure but i think you may have to pack it up
to allow for the joining strip[if you need one]

untill today i had always struggled with
3 million coats of paint and cheeewed up screws

thanks again for you tip as we are always learning
[who ever you are]

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by Dewy on Jun 2^nd, 2004, 2:36am

Another thought big all was something I passed onto coggy last week. Arbortech do a blade, the Tuff Cut, that fits a small angle grinder that is ideal for trimming skirting board bottoms when laying laminate floors. It has a 4mm kerf the same as a biscuit jointer. I saw it on the inside back page of the BriMarc catalogue. Theres a list of retailers in the book.

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by HandyMac on Jun 2^nd, 2004, 6:53am

http://www.poolewood.co.uk/acatalog/Tuff_Cut.html

http://www.axminster.co.uk/default.asp?part=TUFFCUT

Andrew

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by big_all on Jun 2^nd, 2004, 3:33pm

thanks dewy
thanks andrew

when you see an angle grinder you dont exactly
think wood

now im assuming all the gaurd are the same size
on all grinders or you would have to match cutter
to machine
[the face of the gaurd on the floor to cutter]

but its definatly worth the investment :D :D

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by Dewy on Jun 2^nd, 2004, 4:39pm

I had never thought of them for cutting skirting til I saw the catalogue.
Arbortech have been used in angle grinders by wood carvers for ages.
I have no idea how they would by guarded but thats what our brains are for.
They either get fuddled or find the answer. �???

(I hope coggy sees this. They were �5 more in the BriMarc book.)

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by coggy on Jun 6^th, 2004, 7:40pm

http://www.axminster.co.uk/default.asp?part=TUFFCUT

Question
When trimming skirting with this tool, how do you run straight? with a biccy jointer you have the bottom to run off ???

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by HandyMac on Jun 6^th, 2004, 7:52pm

Angle grinders are usually used freehand. I used one to good effect recently to get some crap off of a garden seat ready for painting, though in that instance it was a wire brush that took the material off.

Andrew

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by splinter on Jun 6^th, 2004, 7:54pm

why is everyone cutting the bottoms of their skirtings :)

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by HandyMac on Jun 6^th, 2004, 7:59pm

Laminate flooring?

Andrew

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by woodsmith on Jun 6^th, 2004, 9:43pm

I'm with coggy on this, I think it would be very hard to get a good straight edge on a long run of skirting and a cheap biccy jointer would give a better finish.

Also it would create loads of dust and no extraction, I don't think that'll keep the customers happy.

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by big_all on Jun 6^th, 2004, 9:52pm

personaly my interpritation is

as the blade is offset i would assume you just
run the face off the gaurd against the floor ???

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by splinter on Jun 7^th, 2004, 11:43am

HandyMac, Laminate flooring

just a thought,as most laminate flooring wont last long due eihter to it wearing out or peoples tastes in flooring changing.
when they rip out this flooring to replace it with the new fad in flooring they are going to be left with skirtings several millimetres up their walls :)

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by splinter on Jun 7^th, 2004, 12:04pm

HandyMac http://www.poolewood.co.uk/acatalog/Tuff_Cut.html

http://www.axminster.co.uk/default.asp?part=TUFFCUT

Andrew
hope you dont mind me saying but they look very dangerous tools to me.those machines and BLADES shouldnt be put together with each other :o :)

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by Dewy on Jun 7^th, 2004, 4:08pm

Poolwood say there is a pro guard availible seperately for use with the TUFFCUT blade.

Splinter.
Arbortech has been used extensively for years by wood carvers.
It removes a lot of material quickly.
Safety should always be your first consideration when using any tools.
If you look at an angle grinder you will see that a guard covers the blade and extends to the side of the blade so that it can be used as a guide on the floor when cutting skirtings.
Laminate, as will any floor made with wood will expand and contract.
Skirting boards are normally set to cover floorboards etc so any movement happens out of sight.
One option is to use a quadrant moulding against the skirting to cover the laminate but the floor looks better if the laminate is laid under the skirting.

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by splinter on Jun 7^th, 2004, 8:31pm

dewy ,
with the greatest of respect, that machine with that blade .wont be allowed near a building site .its acciddent waiting to happen :)

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by splinter on Jun 7^th, 2004, 8:38pm

by the way there are power saws on the market for trimming doors in sitdu on the market with safety guards on them, if you dont like the safety factor with these machines .once you bought one you could always stripe it down and make it as unsafe as you like. :)

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by woodsmith on Jun 7^th, 2004, 9:04pm

Splinter, if you look at these blades you will see that they have a very high shoulder and so will only take a small cut with each pass to prevent kick-back. That said I'm with you on this and wouldn't use one.

Title: Re: miricle of door trimming
Post by HandyJon on Jun 15^th, 2004, 11:25pm

I've used a Sharksaw Dowel saw (http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/product/product.jsp?CATID=62656&entryFlag=false&PRODID=176285&paintCatId=) when trimming a door for laminate or carpets. Though I've only used it on new doors where it works quite well. Nice and bendy when using a spare bit of laminate laid on the underlay as a guide and rest. On old doors I take the door off and use an electric plane and/or a circular saw. Not come across an occasion where nails or screws are in the door at the bottom, though I've only trimmed 20 odd doors up till now.