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Title: Kitchen question
Post by HippieChippie on Jun 13^th, 2004, 6:52pm

Hi guys need some advice

I've taken out some kitchen units which are gonna be replaced but I've left worktop and sink in place propped up. I want to push the new units back in under worktop but can see its not gonna be easy to get a fixing into the wall.

What I've come up with is to fit brackets to outsides not insides of cabinets where I can, so working from left to right...... 1st unit scew to wall, 2nd unit screw to 1st unit on left side and to wall on right side and so on. Each unit (except for first) will be fixed to wall on one side only.
What ya reckon is it gonna work, is it gonna be strong enough or any other suggestions??

Also last unit is gonna be standard depth on left hand side but narrows down to about 300mm deep on right (to miss a door), reckon I'm gonna have to cut a it down angle the shelves and edge them with lam. strip (I love this woodworking lark with the chipboard). Any thoughts on that??

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by woodsmith on Jun 13^th, 2004, 7:50pm

I can't see any problems fixing on just one side if you make sure the fixings you do provide are secure.

Cutting the unit down, now there's a challenge :-/

Hope the units are good ones I've had some where the chipboard was mostly air and held together by the melamine.

One problem; if you plan to re-fit the door. The front, cut at an angle, will be longer and the door will no longer fit.

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by WJOHNM on Jun 13^th, 2004, 8:02pm

is it adjustable feet on the bottom of units??
if the sides go to the floor,screw angle brackets to units and floor if possible.
if you put brackets on outside won't they interfere with lining up the next unit ??? ???
how about leaving the end panel open with no door,saves the problem with door ;)
john

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by jasonB on Jun 13^th, 2004, 8:35pm

Why not fix worktop to wall with angle brackets then fix top of carcases to worktop.

Jason

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by Kesh on Jun 13^th, 2004, 11:01pm

Quote:

Also last unit is gonna be standard depth on left hand side but narrows down to about 300mm deep on right (to miss a door), reckon I'm gonna have to cut a it down angle the shelves and edge them with lam. strip (I love this woodworking lark with the chipboard). Any thoughts on that??

My kitchen has a unit just like that (in reverse) - already fitted when I moved in, & it works a treat.

The front edges of the unit have also been cut at an angle so that the door fits flush. It's a double door, & only the wider part opens.

I have to mention though, that this kitchen was custom built, so making the doors fit the opening was not a big deal. Perhaps you may need to add a new part to the carcass to hinge the door on, with a fillet on the outside?

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by big_all on Jun 13^th, 2004, 11:33pm

another point to note hippy chippie
[i think there is a few more ]
the hinges wont go less than 90%
so you may have to put them on the
other side
actualy reading your item again
it looks like youv got a shelve
unit on the end

plllleeeeaaassseee
let us know more

goood luuuck

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by HippieChippie on Jun 14^th, 2004, 6:53pm

Thanks guys- good advice as usual

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by jasonB on Jun 14^th, 2004, 8:43pm

Blum make hinges that will allow the door to be hinged on either side of the carcase (37deg or 25deg acute hinge). If you get the angle a little less than 45 degrees you may get away with using a 400mm door as the length required at 45deg is 420mm.

Another alternative wound ne to cut the unit square accross at 300mm and set the door back or just use a wall carcase to save any cutting.

Jason

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by mailee on Jun 14^th, 2004, 11:28pm

Ah Jason, just what I was going to suggest. If the room allows it wouldn't it be better to cut it down on the back and just have a shallower unit?. ;)

Title: Re: Kitchen question
Post by Kesh on Jun 14^th, 2004, 11:29pm

On re- reading this - couldn't you just construct a copy of the existing carcass?