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Title: c&g exams advise Post by supra59 on Sep 25th, 2004, 12:00am hello all i would like some advice on the best course which i would benifit from i have no certs in the elec field but i have worked on electrical instalation mainly commercial properties for about six years with a fully qualified spark but i had done three or four house rewires before i started with my mate which i had inspected by a qualfied spark who written the cert for me. my freind retired around 18 month age and i have taken over the work. since, i have done four or so big jobs which all have been tested by nic approved sparks and recieved the certs. so my question is i am confident with my work practically but would like to inprove my understanding of the theory side of the job testing etc my main downfall would be the mathamatics as i am not that hot with this. so what would be a good course for me to take, and if poss what sort of questions would be on the papers. thanks to all that as taken the time to read this and any help will be appreciated. ps please dont think i am a cow boy because i have no qaulifications. as i take great pride in my work. thanks again supra |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by The_Trician on Sep 25th, 2004, 12:05am The following courses in the following order. GCSE MATHS GCSE PHYSICS C & G 2360 PTS 1 & 2 C & G 2381 C &G 2391 Good luck mate - I know who you are! Hope I passed the test! TT |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by supra59 on Sep 25th, 2004, 12:13am hi trician thanks for your promt answer im not sure you are being serious and i dont understand the bottom lines you no who i am and did i pass . please explain thanks supra |
Title: Re: c&g exams advice Post by unphased on Sep 25th, 2004, 11:43am My suggestion would be to study the C&G part 1 now and see how you fair. Then go for part 2. um..I dont know who you are ??? :-/ Roy |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by L.Spark on Sep 25th, 2004, 3:32pm Hey Supra I don't Personally know who you are, so I don't know what all this is about, but anyway I assume you already have GCSE or similar to get you onto a starting course. As Unphased suggested, Part 1 is your best choice C&G number 2330 (previously 2360) Part 1 if you pass this you would then go onto complete part 2. nothing more to add really except you can progress onto short courses after that if you wish. good luck :) |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by supra59 on Sep 26th, 2004, 5:39pm Thanks for the sugestions the only problem i have found with my age the coledges i have enquired at say i am to old and the part 1 and 2 are for apprentices as such i did ask the question and i was told to look at further education courses which dont do these courses i am 45 years old and would look a little odd with 16 to 18s as an apprentice lol but on a serious note its seems to me a little odd that i am classed as being to old to do the course surely peeps from time to time swap trades later in life like my self which i served my apprenticeship as a mechanic / auto spark. any further sugestions will be welcomed. ps i dont know what all the other remarks are about i am quite sure i no nobody on here im from manchester so if some one does no me speak up and tell me who you are thanks again supra by the way the glossary looks good lspark. |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by RES on Sep 26th, 2004, 9:01pm In an ideal world you should probably do 2360 parts 1 & 2. But in reality unless you're looking to get a job that specifically requires it, I would do your 2381 and then 2391. RES |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by mark on Sep 26th, 2004, 10:40pm i think you will find that many 2391 courses now require part c & g as an entry requirement 1and 2 also 2381 are asking for c & g part 1 now as a lot of people were doning the 2381 especially plumbers and claiming to be qualified electricians |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by RES on Sep 27th, 2004, 9:09am Sorry, my information may be out of date. When I took my 2381 & 2391 last year, there were no entry requirements. One bloke dropped out of the 2381 as he was a mechanical fitter, and was struggling. His choice though, doubt the colleges are going to send anyone away who wants to pay to do the course. 2381 was a joke, all we did was dozens of old papers, so when we sat the real one 90% of the questions you'd already answered, probably several times, so it was a memory test. It did teach you how to use the 16th edition, which I suppose is all it's really meant to do. 2391 was far more demanding, but not beyond most sparks who do the job daily. But again no entry requirements. RES |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by L.Spark on Sep 27th, 2004, 6:20pm Hey Supra Well thats a right load of crap what they told you, firstly the 2360 courses are vocational courses, they require you to have some knowlege or experience already before you take them on. secondly theres no way your too old to do them, whilst doing our part 2 we had many good blokes in our class which were from all sections of the industry, all ages, and some who had nothing to do with electrical work, at least a quater of the class were in the 40's, most in there late 20's early 30's and a few 18 upwards. If you can get your local college to accept you on 2381 & 2391 coures on your experieance in electrical work then that may be a good option or a good start, but it wont give you the same qualification as if you took the 2-3 years, but I think it would serve you better, and wont nessiciary restrict what you can do. |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by L.Spark on Sep 27th, 2004, 6:21pm wrote on Sep 26th, 2004, 5:39pm:
Ta :) |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by L.Spark on Sep 27th, 2004, 6:25pm wrote on Sep 27th, 2004, 9:09am:
with regard to entry requirements, there is as mark said some requirements, this would include part 1 for 16th edditon course, and C & G 1+2, Including 16th eddition for 2391 (testing), some colleges will let you in without the 2381 if you are uptodate with the regulations. there is however a chance this maybe overlooked, every college is different tho and you may or may not be able to work something out with them. |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by supra59 on Sep 28th, 2004, 5:50pm Thanks lads i will go down the road of 2381/2391 i will have to try a few different colledges to see if i can get in just hope i can grasp the maths. Thanks again for all the help supra Ps still not sure what this was about with tricians post Good luck mate - I know who you are! Hope I passed the test! |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by supra59 on Sep 28th, 2004, 10:03pm i thought i would let you all no i have found a colledge in rochdale which i can take the 2 courses what was suggested without any other c&g which sounds good to me i phoned them and ask the question he also tells me theres not any difficult maths involved but for the 2391 it would be better to take a 1 day practical course on testing an instalation i will keep you informed of the progress thanks again supra |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by L.Spark on Sep 29th, 2004, 2:20pm Hope all goes well Supra, don't worry about the maths too much, if you have done testing before, or study and practice (if you can) before the course, it will make it that much easier for you. If you need any advice or help from anyone here at NS, we will do our best to help you where we can :) |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by sparkyjonny on Oct 17th, 2004, 7:49pm If you do plenty of reading up (guides by Scadden etc), can read through the regs & understand them, along with trip curves, correction factors etc., and have good mathematical knowledge then I'd recommend going straight for 2381 at your local college - that's what I'm doing, and am finding it fine. Then go for 2391. Good luck! |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by JerryD on Oct 17th, 2004, 7:57pm I'm doing 2381 at the moment, it's not too difficult if you have plenty of practical knowledge of electrical installations. However some of the others on my course are also doing 2391 at the same time. they say it is a nightmare!! Formulas about 18" long!! Is inspection and testing THAT difficult?? |
Title: Re: c&g exams advise Post by dingbat on Oct 17th, 2004, 11:24pm wrote on Oct 17th, 2004, 7:57pm:
No, it's not. And there are hardly any formulas to worry about at all. (The maths involved in most electrical installation and testing work is very elementary anyway.) What is probably of more concern to those on the 2391 is that the pass mark is very high and no books are allowed in the exam. |
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