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Title: Rings
Post by molerat on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:04pm

I have a large cupboard that backs onto my kitchen. This cupboard has a socket in it which is on the downstairs ring. I am going to enlarge my kitchen by removing the stud wall between the kitchen and this cupboard and blocking off its doorway. This will bring the socket into the kitchen area which has its own ring. How does this stand regulation (and common sense) wise ? ???

Title: Re: Rings
Post by The_Trician on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:25pm

Regswise there's no issue at all. Commonsense-wise its difficult to tell without seeing the job.

I assume you already have sockets in your kitchen? If so, its a good idea for the cupboard socket to be on the same circuit as the kitchen sockets so that if you switch the mcb off or pull the Ring fuse, you'll know that ALL of the sockets are dead in the kitchen.

Now that's common sense!

;) ;) ;)

TT

Title: Re: Rings
Post by L.Spark on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:26pm

wrote on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:04pm:

I have a large cupboard that backs onto my kitchen. �This cupboard has a socket in it which is on the downstairs ring. �I am going to enlarge my kitchen by removing the stud wall between the kitchen and this cupboard and blocking off its doorway. �This will bring the socket into the kitchen area which has its own ring. �How does this stand regulation (and common sense) wise ? ???

Well firstly it depends upon where the socket is located, e.g. away from sources of water and excess heat

Secondly all sockets that can 'reasonably' supply portable equipment outside should be RCD protected, this could be either an RCD Socket or an RCD unit protecting the ring circuit located in the consumer unit

Title: Re: Rings
Post by Stoday on Dec 1^st, 2004, 12:19am

wrote on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:25pm:

Now that's common sense!

Common sense is to test & prove it's dead, not to assume you know which fuse or mcb protects it.

Title: Re: Rings
Post by big-e on Dec 1^st, 2004, 1:20am

I'd say its good practice rather than common sense ;) My new house has 16 mcb's and not one of them is labelled >:(