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Message started by HM on Jan 17th, 2005, 4:41pm

Title: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 17th, 2005, 4:41pm

I have to reseal a shower tray tomorrow. Didn't go so well today as I had hoped.

The basic problem I ran into today was that my masking tape wouldn't stick to the wall tiles, and the silicon sealant I put on was a bit rough, so I took it all off again and will try again tomorrow.

Anyway, I still have the problem that the masking tape won't stick to the wall tiles. Anyone got any little secrets about how to get tape to stick?

I'm gonna try cleaning the area tomorrow before I start using meths.

HM

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by JerryD on Jan 17th, 2005, 4:50pm


wrote on Jan 17th, 2005, 4:41pm:
I'm gonna try cleaning the area tomorrow before I start using meths.

Don't start using meths, you'll end up like this


Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by bstyle on Jan 17th, 2005, 5:24pm

Forget the masking tape, just cut the nozzle at 45 degrees (but not too much from the end!)

If you struggle smooting the silicone with your finger then mix up a bit of washing up liquid with water and dip your finger in it before you smooth, you will find the silicone wont stick to your finger.

Also dont put too much silicone on.


Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 17th, 2005, 5:58pm

Good advice bstyle, and that's exactly how I used to do siliconing. But not very long ago I thought what the hell, and tried doing a worktop with masking tape. It made a hell of a difference time wise so that's my preferred method now.

HM

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by billythekid on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:31pm

use a nice clean wallpaper scraper to wipe the silicon, much neater finish than the half round effort yer finger gives.

or

will insulating tape stick? or sellotape or pressure sensitive tape or duck tape?????

or

put a bath sealing strip on it, cut to size.

or

tell her its leaking because her tiles are wrong and theres nothing you can do about it.

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:32pm

You got me there billyboy. I'm sure I know what a wallpaper scraper is, but what exactly is a wallpaper scraper when it's at home?

HM

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by billythekid on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:35pm


wrote on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:32pm:
You got me there billyboy. I'm sure I know what a wallpaper scraper is, but what exactly is a wallpaper scraper when it's at home?

HM




I am sure this is a wind up, its a bit of metal cut flat at one end, you can use it to scrape wallpaper off a wall or finish a bead of silicon, or scrape the plaster off the laminate, or sometimes turn screws when you cant be arsed getting yer tools outta the motor.  its got a handle and everything! its like a palette knife but wider.

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 18th, 2005, 1:24am

Not a wind up. I probably have one of those but haven't heard it referred as a wallpaper scraper before.

HM

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by billythekid on Jan 18th, 2005, 11:36am

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=48092&id=72387

they call it a strip knife ;)  I need to type without an accent so y'all can understand me!

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 18th, 2005, 12:46pm

Now you've confuddled the hell out of me. Got one or three of those.

But how exactly am I supposed to use one of these in the corner where a shower tray meets tiles? I have a small quadrant of silicon.

Finished the job about an hour ago BTW. Decided to buy some plastic quadrant to fit around the shower tray. Then silicon'd the edges of that (I silicon'd the gap between shower tray and tile first, so it's now double sealed).

HM

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by billythekid on Jan 18th, 2005, 3:21pm

put silicon on, not too heavy. Then place this thing on its side and scrape along a bit(so the "scraper" edge is against tile/wall", wipe off and do some more. Leaves a very nice square edge. Looks far far better than the miniscus efffect your finger leaves in my opinion.  if you have a bit of quadrant left, nail it upside down against a bit of wood, silicon the rounded back edge and then scrape with that, look for yourself how neat it is.

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 18th, 2005, 4:10pm

Ah! I see!

Too late for this job, but I'll give it a go next time.

HM

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by JohnDavies on Jan 18th, 2005, 6:01pm

So is it best to use plastic quadrant or not?  I am concerned about the difficulty of getting great lumps of mastic  off again in years to come, especially near fibreglass baths.


John Davies

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 18th, 2005, 6:16pm

Well I like the quadrant approach, and you don't use very much silicon along the edges - just enough to smooth over the joint and it's done.

There's not really a lot of silicon in the arrangement so at some future point it ought to be fairly simple to get off.

HM

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by billythekid on Jan 18th, 2005, 6:37pm

tha bath seal quadrant strips normally come with a tape backing to seal down onto the bath/tiles.

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by JerryD on Jan 18th, 2005, 6:58pm

While we're on the subject of silicone, how do you stop mildew and mould growing on it, especially in shower enclosures?

Nothing I've ever tried has worked  :(

There must be a better way of sealing tiles to shower tray?  

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by bripl on Jan 18th, 2005, 7:41pm

use good quality silicone with anti fungel agent dow corning 751 sanitary sealant as with everything preparation and cleaning.if redoing a shower make sure all the spores are removed before applying the new silicone 8)

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by bstyle on Jan 18th, 2005, 8:36pm


wrote on Jan 18th, 2005, 6:58pm:
While we're on the subject of silicone, how do you stop mildew and mould growing on it, especially in shower enclosures?

Nothing I've ever tried has worked  :(

There must be a better way of sealing tiles to shower tray?  


These are good http://www.schluter.co.uk/produkt.aspx?doc=4-10-dilex-as.xml&pg=funktion

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by Kesh on Jan 18th, 2005, 11:12pm


wrote on Jan 18th, 2005, 6:58pm:
While we're on the subject of silicone, how do you stop mildew and mould growing on it, especially in shower enclosures?

Nothing I've ever tried has worked  :(

There must be a better way of sealing tiles to shower tray?  


If you get an on-going problem due to poor ventilation etc.,  a dose of neat bleach applied with a kitchen scourer-sponge will clear it & keep it at bay for a year or so.

Title: Re: Masking tape
Post by HM on Jan 19th, 2005, 1:42am

THis was a problem with the shower I've just resealed. It had a couple of patches of black mildew in the corners of the previous silicon (which hadn't been done well IMHO because it left small shallows in the silicon where water wouldn't run off).

My approach was to aggressively remove as much of the old silicon as possible. Then I gave it some heavy swabbing with bleach. Then used silicon remover overnight. Methylated spirit to clean everything up (mental note: not a good idea in an enclosed shower area - hic!). Then silicon. Then quadrant all round to cover that silicon. Then finish the quadrant with silicon.

Now if any of these blasted microbes manage to survive that little lot I'm gonna get worried that we've good a new super-microbe on the loose.....

HM

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