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Title: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by andymac on Jan 30^th, 2005, 12:02pm

I have an electric shower to replace. It should be just a straight swap, apart from re-routing the pipework slightly.

Now I don't think this will come under Part P, being a straight swap with no additional wiring or installations but I just want to be sure.

Any comments most welcome...

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by Stoday on Jan 30^th, 2005, 12:18pm

A shower is an appliance, so isn't covered by part P.

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by andymac on Feb 1^st, 2005, 5:59pm

Thanks Stoday.

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by supersparky on Feb 1^st, 2005, 6:34pm

it would come under part P as it connects to the fixed wiring infrastructure.

BUT, and a big BUT, is that its a straight swap, and so dosnt come under part p i dont think...

ss

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by JerryD on Feb 1^st, 2005, 7:06pm

wrote on Feb 1^st, 2005, 6:34pm:

it would come under part P as it connects to the fixed wiring infrastructure.

ss

does this mean changing your cooker now comes under part P as this is hard wired to the fixed wiring?

where does it all end :'(

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by greg on Feb 1^st, 2005, 9:30pm

but i thought bathrooms and kitchens were special locations and as such showers and cookers are covered by part p?

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by PEDANTICVINDICTIVEMAN on Feb 2^nd, 2005, 7:41am

Who cares who knows and most of all who checks ???

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by pactrol on Feb 27^th, 2005, 9:42pm

Hi

This is just one example of how ludicrous part p realy is ???

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by bstyle on Feb 27^th, 2005, 9:51pm

It might be a straight swap but how do you know that it's been wired up correctly in the first place? The supplementary bonding might also be non existant and could be dangerous when in use.

If the user gets a shock and dies then they'll be straighy round knocking on your door.

My views would be to get an electrician in and get a copy of a certificate from him, then it's down to him.

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by billythekid on Mar 7^th, 2005, 9:50pm

wrote on Feb 27^th, 2005, 9:51pm:

If the user gets a shock and dies then they'll be straighy round knocking on your door.

brilliant

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by Plumber on Mar 14^th, 2005, 10:09pm

A straight swap, like for like, even in kitchens and bathrooms does not have to be notified. thats definate, to many sites are giving out conflicting advise including CORGI try contacting the ECA

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by supersparky on Mar 14^th, 2005, 10:29pm

wrote on Mar 7^th, 2005, 9:50pm:

brilliant

yeh lmfao

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by bstyle on Mar 14^th, 2005, 11:13pm

Lol,

I meant the part p police....hoooonnnnneeeest!!!!!

Not the dead bloke in the shower!

BTK, you Anorak!

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by scotspark on Apr 16^th, 2005, 2:16pm

wrote on Feb 27^th, 2005, 9:51pm:

If the user gets a shock and dies then they'll be straighy round knocking on your door.

LMFAO

so if a dead guy appears at your door afterwards.................

run like feck

can hardly see for laughing

classic

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by CWatters on Apr 18^th, 2005, 7:36pm

wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2005, 7:41am:

Who cares who knows and most of all who checks ???

I agree that nobody is likely to check. The only concern is that if you sold your house and it burned down you might have to explain how your finger prints got somewhere they shouldn't. Yes I know it's unlikely but fire prevention is one of the main reasons for the new regs so it must happen to somebody..

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by WOLF on Apr 21^st, 2005, 4:34pm

just been reading this here thread, and as per usual good thread, sound advise(where possible with part p, and the usual smuttering of wise cracks and comments....
BUT.. if one of the main area's of part p is fire prevention, then why does this contry still allow gas appliances with out auto shut off sensors, which are cheap items to fit....(by the manufacturers) with all these trips/mcb's,-d's etc leccy is by far the safest form of utility!!!

PART P is like the "u" bend on our toilet, i still can not get my head around the thinking behind it all!!!!! ??? ???

Title: Re: Shower replacement....part P?
Post by billythekid on Apr 21^st, 2005, 9:30pm

LOL WOLF, try taking the U-bend out mate it'll all become clear! hehe.

btk