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Message started by grahamthebrickie on Jan 13th, 2006, 7:45pm

Title: Oak Worktops
Post by grahamthebrickie on Jan 13th, 2006, 7:45pm

Anyone got ideas for sealing Oak worktops, doing a utility room and have got my hands on some oak worktop unfinished.

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by WOLF on Jan 13th, 2006, 8:17pm

Hi there dear chap, it all depends upon what you need to seal it against, if it is mainly water. then an oil is best, it really is not advisable to use Varnish on oak!

how thick, and is it oak, completely, or a thick (10mm plus) on all four sides, (have had this before too!) with a ply core!!

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by grahamthebrickie on Jan 13th, 2006, 8:46pm

The worktop is solid oak 35mm thick, do you mean something like Danish or linseed oil, thanks

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by WOLF on Jan 13th, 2006, 9:16pm

forget danish, linseed oil etc,  the best by far is Tung oil, for oak (teak also) , and the best brand (as it is the purest) is Liberon see link for details, and buy from a stockist near your self!!!!   not particulary the one in the link!!  just the product!!http://www.agwoodcare.co.uk/show_product.php?id=87

and it will help, if a request for "timber" based fnishes, is needed, to post in the carpentery section, okay dokay dear chap!!!  painter just want too PAINT timber, which is sacralidge in my books!!! (rant all you like Hammy!!  ::)it did not grow with paint on it, so it should NOT be painted!!!), and Var@*sh,... well just DON'T GO THERE >:(

any way, this is the way to go, and by far the best solution to the question/problem!!
okay!!
regards matt!!

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by scotspark on Jan 13th, 2006, 9:44pm

and did it grow with liberon on it ????????????????

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by JerryD on Jan 13th, 2006, 10:38pm

Out of interest, what are pub bar tops finished with?  These are usually timber with some kind of French polish on them? yes/no

Whatever the finish is, it must be pretty good to stand all that beer slopping all over it constantly.

Would this be better for these oak tops?

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by hamilton on Jan 13th, 2006, 11:44pm

I rather thought that pub bartops were finished with a two pack polyurethane varnish, due to it's resistance to scratching and chemical attacks. (sorry Wolf).

Wouldn't stake my life on it though.

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by WOLF on Jan 13th, 2006, 11:59pm

Most bar/pub counter tops are actually a laminated material, for stability, with a 2k resin based clear coat on them!!!! light years ahead of button polish or Var@*sh!!!

and for info SP. all oil based products by Liberon and others are made from plant/tree oils!!!

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by woodsmith on Jan 14th, 2006, 9:08am

I've just made some oak worktops for a holiday let and they insisted on varnish, said they didn't want any maintenance issues :-/.

They had a point and the customer is sometimes right, you do need to keep on top of an oil finished kitchen worktop.

I've just made some for my own kitchen and used Liberon Finishing oil, it is mostly Tung oil but it has driers added which speed up the process. Leaves a nice sheen finish.

For a shinier finish Chestnut Finishing oil is good, I would avoid Danish oil, they have now "enhanced" it and I am not sure if I would want to use it on a food prep area.

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by hamilton on Jan 14th, 2006, 12:05pm

I think with two pack polyurethane varnish, that the film former is polyurethane resin and not oil modified natural resin.

Don't exactly know why I'm saying that, just thought I would mention it really.


Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by WOLF on Jan 14th, 2006, 1:16pm

Why not mention it , we ALL learn at least one thing each day, and WS, as good as the Liberon Finishing oil is, i must say that the Chestnut Finishing oil i do definately prefer ( 8 out of 10 dogs, said their joiner/carpenter owners perfered it!!) LOL
http://www.chestnutproducts.co.uk/index.asp

and as for the OAk with var@#sh on it, i give it year tops before it starts to crack, nature of the beast so to speak!!! poor you any way WS, for having to do that part of the job!!!

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by woodsmith on Jan 14th, 2006, 2:05pm


wrote on Jan 14th, 2006, 1:16pm:

and as for the OAk with var@#sh on it, i give it year tops before it starts to crack, nature of the beast so to speak!!! poor you any way WS, for having to do that part of the job!!!


I don't know :-/ I'm pretty good at varnishing ;) and it should last reasonably well. The main problem is if they mark it, it would need sanding right back.

9 out of 10 carpenters dogs prefer a Bonio ;D

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by hamilton on Jan 14th, 2006, 2:21pm

I hate dogs.  :-/

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by WOLF on Jan 14th, 2006, 2:22pm

OH GAWD! WS, i was in no way calling your workmanship in to question, it is just having seen more than enough var@#shed pieces of oak look like some one with golfing shoes has walked over them,  i just hope you do not get any grief down the line on it!!!


it just gets me some times, when a customer/client come to YOU (us) as the professional for advise, then does not take it!!! especially on the finish to a piece!!!  one single dropped item, especially in aholiday let, and ooops! chipped cracked marked surface, and oh no!! here we go!! sanders at the ready!!!

and Bess states charcol Bonio's are best so 10 out of 10!!... or for some strange eason, a nice Beech shaving!!!! (strange dog though!!!... aw hack, damned strange owners!! )LOL ;D

and Hammy....well your a bloody cat dude, what do you expect!!!

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by hamilton on Jan 14th, 2006, 2:25pm

Wolfie, give me your address, and I'll nip round and give your hairdressers car a nice coat of gloss varnish.

I just know you will be so impressed.  ;D

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by WOLF on Jan 14th, 2006, 2:29pm

she's got a new merc, so i am not to worried, but with the size of Mark her man MOUNTAIN hubby, i don't quite think you will risk it, he's one of these blokes with little or no sense of humour!!!!, not like us TRADES people!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by hamilton on Jan 14th, 2006, 9:50pm

Wolfie, I wasn't talking about the car that belongs to your hairdresser, I meant your Rover 216.   ;D

Title: Re: Oak Worktops
Post by WOLF on Jan 14th, 2006, 10:42pm

Oh i don't mind that, when i restored it, it had a serious multi layered paint job, a "pearlescent metalic, " basically blue in day light, but in certain conditons it goes differing shades of blue,  Ian my paint sprayer, put on 1 etch primer, 3 base coat, 4 coats biscuit primer, 6 coats of the main colour coat, finished up with 6 coats of laquer!! (or VARNISH  to the likes of us!!!)  all in that 2k or "2 pack"??!!??

but i do take heed of your threat!!!

(oooH OOH! mod, mod, he's threatening me!!! LOL  ;D ;D)


meeeoooooww!!! ;D

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