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Title: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by pault on Feb 16^th, 2008, 10:24am

Hi all

Not sure im in the right section but here goes. Im in the process of regutting a onld bathroom suite and retiling the walls from floor to ceiling. I will be using a plumber (obviously) and a friend whi is a tiler so im not doing it myself. I was just curious about the order of works as i dont want to do it in the wrong order.

I will completelty remove the bathroom suitemyself and remove old tiles fron the wall. My query is what comes next??? Does the bathroom suite go in 1st or do we tile the walls and them plumb in the suite after the tiles are on so we dont have to tile around the toilet and hand basin etc??

What order would you guys do it in?

Thanks

Paul

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by CWatters on Feb 16^th, 2008, 12:30pm

I'm not a professional but this is what I would do..

Tile before mounting a wall mounted basins and/or and toilet/cistern.

Tile after mounting the bath. The seal between bath and wall is a common problem area. It makes a big difference if the bath is on a rigid fame and can't move when you get in an out. Helps to make sure the floor is reinforced under the frame and fix a batten to the wall for the edge of the bath to rest on - or even a full wooden frame. Mark a pencil line where the bath comes on the wall then climb into the bath - this helps show up any movement. Get it as rigid as poss and the bath seal will last a lot longer. Seal bath to wall. Tile down to the bath. Seal bath to tiles.

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by jasonB on Feb 16^th, 2008, 4:59pm

I completly fit bath, shower tray, shower mixer. Test fit and plumb for basin, loo & rad allowing for thickness of tile/adhesive then remove them leaving services shut off with isolating valves.

The area is then free for the tiler who can just drill his tiles to suit pipe locations, once tiled get the plumber back to do the second fix - fit basin, Loo, rad, shower screen etc.

Jason

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by thescruff on Feb 16^th, 2008, 5:31pm

wrote on Feb 16^th, 2008, 4:59pm:

As I said in the plumbing forum JasonB,
A lot of shower enclosures (Showerlux) for example have to be tiled the continental way or they don't fit. That is tile first and fit the tray to the tiles

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by RabbitRabbit on Feb 16^th, 2008, 6:15pm

A tiler once told me never to screw a basin to a tiled wall as people tend t lean on basins and this can lead to cracking tiles if the basin is screwed to the wall via the tiles. The tiler should be able to tile around the basin, tricky? Yes but I have seen it done by pro's and it looks very nice when done properly.

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by thescruff on Feb 16^th, 2008, 6:23pm

Depends on the wall material RR, but you should always tap the plug ridht through the tile and not leave it flush

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by JerryD on Feb 17^th, 2008, 8:16am

We do it exactly the same as Jason. Regarding screwing a basin to a tiled wall, we always run a small bead of clear silicone to the back edge (unseen) of the basin prior to screwing it to the tiled wall. The basin now doesn't need to be screwed really tight (fairly tight - yes) as the silicone acts as a weld when set. You could even remove the screws altogether next day and the basin would not move.

We always mark the centre line of the basin on the wall prior to tiling as some tilers like to use the basin as a datum so that the tiles sit equally across the back of the basin.

We also always mark the centre line of the wc pan onto the floor as again, some floor tilers like to centre on the pan if possible.

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by RabbitRabbit on Feb 17^th, 2008, 9:34am

True Scruff, he was referring to a stud wall - I am sure it would be OK on a solid wall.

Title: Re: Bathroom tiling- order of works
Post by thescruff on Feb 17^th, 2008, 11:46am

On stud walls I always used to insist on a ply board to fix to