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Message started by birty on Jun 8th, 2009, 11:24pm

Title: Cracked paint- Help
Post by birty on Jun 8th, 2009, 11:24pm

New Plaster boards and well and truly dry skim coats. Gave 2 coats of waterdown coats and 2 coats of finished coats. Dried with cracks like a motled effect!! Only on two walls. All others done at same time , same area are fine so far. Used a spray gun for all coats.  Left aprox 2 hrs between final coats and 5 days after wash coats. Rubbed it down and rollered over but effect has re appeared- got worse!!! Its asiff the Dulux Paint has shrunk has it dries.  Advice please.

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by Zambezi on Jun 9th, 2009, 9:01am

I have had paint crack up when it dried too quickly (painting on a really hot day), at least that is what I put it down to  :-?
Hopefully one of the proper decorators will be back from their holidays soon and can offer more expert advice  ;D

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by birty on Jun 9th, 2009, 9:01pm

Heard similar today. It was in the warmest part of house- upstairs. Told to cover with oil based undercoat and then try again with emulsion! Let you know if it covers >:(

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by TIMBA-WOLF on Jun 9th, 2009, 11:22pm

can also occur if the skim coat plaster was past its best(old plaster etc) when applied, will still go on and get a glass smooth finish, but has a deterimental affect on the later finishes..

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by woodsmith on Jun 10th, 2009, 7:37am

I had this happen in a room, no idea why, but I gave it a coat of diluted oil based undercoat and that has (hopefully ) solved it

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by Joiner on Jun 10th, 2009, 9:32am

Spraying water-based paints can have this effect, especially when spraying large flat areas. I tried it for kitchen cabinet doors some time ago and so have a low-pressure spray gun for sale if anyone wants one!!

It was explained to me that when the paint (necessarily thinned down for spraying) leaves the nozzle it's already starting to dry on its way to the surface to be covered, which is why sprayed paint dries quicker than brushed.

It apparently doesn't happen with solvent-based paints, or at least not enough to be as noticeable. Whatever he meant by that.

I use a roller now and wire-wool down between coats. Well, I still would be if I was still daft enough to get involved with making kitchens for people who can't make their bloody minds up and want a bespoke kitchen for the price of a B&Q one.

By the way, the crackled paint effect you hit on accidentally can be achieved using crackle varnish. It's called 'craquelure'. Thought I'd mention it so that if the alternative procedure doesn't work you can tell people it was the effect you were aiming for and actually give them its name. I'm sure they'll be impressed. 8-)

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by hammy on Jun 11th, 2009, 7:06pm

Going against popular opinion, it sounds like the final coat was applied before the previous coat was fully dry. As it dried out and contracted it pulled the previous coat with it.

Or am I missing something or wrongly reading your post?

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by CWatters on Jun 12th, 2009, 8:19am

Go careful with emulsion over oil. Did that once and the oil seemed to bleed through the emulsion after a month.

Perhaps there was a contaminant in the plaster thats messing with the paint?

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by hammy on Jun 12th, 2009, 5:17pm

Emulsion over oil paint will chip at the slightest knock.

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by woodsmith on Jun 14th, 2009, 6:31pm

Hammy, I used 50-50 white spirit to u/c as a primer and it went on very thin. So far I haven't had any chipping, but now I'm worried ::)

Perhaps I would have been better off with a plaster sealer but aren't they oil based?

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by hammy on Jun 29th, 2009, 4:01pm

No, the 50/50 sounds alright to me woody; not sure why though.  :D

Title: Re: Cracked paint- Help
Post by woodsmith on Jun 29th, 2009, 5:20pm


hammy wrote on Jun 29th, 2009, 4:01pm:
No, the 50/50 sounds alright to me woody; not sure why though.  :D



Thats comforting  ;D

Thanks

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