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Bob

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Heating
Aug 31^st, 2006, 10:53am

Morning all.

I am thinking ahead to when I have some readies saved up but need a central heating system. At the moment I have storage heaters in 3 bedrooms and the downstairs hall, and a gravity fed oil fired rayburn in the kitchen. I'd like to rip out the storage heaters and have central heating pref oil fired as I have the oil tank (I'm not near a gas main). I'm having a garage built onto the house with two bedrooms above it, would it be ok to put a boiler in the garage. What type would be best?

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Reply #1 - Aug 31^st, 2006, 12:18pm

You can get boilers designed to go outdoors if necessary. I think Grant make some.

Others can tell you if they garage is OK. I don't think there are any regs that preclude this. Depending on the power you need it might be possible to fit a wall mounted boiler.

The pipe between garage and house will need careful consideration and insulating well if they need to go underground.

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Bob GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 58 For This Post: 0	Re: Heating Reply #2 - Aug 31^st, 2006, 12:37pm The garage will be on the end of the house so hopefully the pipes will be able to go straight into the gap between the ground floor cieling + 1st floor 'floor'. Is that advisable?
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Reply #3 - Aug 31^st, 2006, 3:04pm

I'm just standing in for the real experts who will be along shortly

It sounds ok as far as the heating is concerned but you may have to watch the fire regs. I'm not sure what the rules are on making holes between a garage and the house.

I just noticed that you have bedrooms above the garage... Presumably that means you have a Building Control Officer allocated so he's probably the best person to ask about the pipe runs as you will need to satisfy him that the fire containment is ok.

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Reply #4 - Aug 31^st, 2006, 7:44pm

Not sure about the regs for an oil boiler, so you may have to enclose it in a cupboard.

Ceiling with have to be fire rated 1/2hr I think.

BO will say what he wants, and should be on the approved plans.

Normally the boiler would be room sealed, but oil is different so will go do the reading and come back.

Pipes are ok as you suggest, but again the BO may want them boxed in and fireproofed, ask first and they will be very helpfull.

The route for the oil line from the tank is another issue which may give problems, your suggested route for that is ?.

You will need a fire valve external to the entry point.

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Re: Heating
Reply #5 - Aug 31^st, 2006, 7:49pm

CWatters wrote on Aug 31^st, 2006, 12:18pm:

You can get boilers designed to go outdoors if necessary. I think Grant make some.

Others can tell you if they garage is OK. I don't think there are any regs that preclude this. Depending on the power you need it might be possible to fit a wall mounted boiler.

The pipe between garage and house will need careful consideration and insulating well if they need to go underground.

Agree that Grants are as good as any, but you wont find many wall hung models on the market.

If you have the room I would consider a small room on the end of the garage and perhaps incorporate an unvented cylinder in the same space, all nice and tidy. Cool

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thescruff Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline Who said plumbing was easy. Posts: 6037 Total Thanks: 147 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Plumber	Re: Heating Reply #6 - Aug 31^st, 2006, 8:25pm Yep all is ok subject to a few regs, see pdf below. http://www.oftec.co.uk/publications/TI_127_Iss_04_Jan_2005_web.pdf May also be helpfull. http://www.oftec.co.uk/publications/tech_infosheets1.htm
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Reply #7 - Sep 5^th, 2006, 11:44am

I've had a gander at the oil tank pdf's (thank you), I can't see anything about putting the tank against the garage wall (apart from not allowed to be within 1.8m of a non fire rated wall) This will not be the case as it's brick/insulation/block construction at 280mm thick. Therefore the question is can the tank be situated next to the wall (on the outside). Cheers

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Bob GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 147 For This Post: 0	Re: Heating Reply #8 - Sep 5^th, 2006, 11:51am Forgot to say. It's a plastic tank if that makes any difference? Cheers
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thescruff Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline Who said plumbing was easy. Posts: 6037 Total Thanks: 147 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Plumber	Re: Heating Reply #9 - Sep 5^th, 2006, 6:15pm or oil tank regs see attched link. Somewhere around page 54 on. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADJ_2002.pdf
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Bob GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 147 For This Post: 0	Re: Heating Reply #10 - Sep 26^th, 2006, 12:33pm Many thanks That appears to be ok, as the wall is more than 30mins fire proof
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