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Cistern condensation
Jan 19th, 2007, 10:05pm
 
A bit of a random question but is there any clever way of stopping condensation from building up on the sides of a ceramic WC cistern?
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Re: Cistern condensation
Reply #1 - Jan 19th, 2007, 10:26pm
 
Paint the cistern with emusion paint  Grin

Or, don't have showers.
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Re: Cistern condensation
Reply #2 - Jan 19th, 2007, 10:45pm
 
short of boxing it in 'providing a thermal barrier' or heating the water in the cistern not realy Angry Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Jan 19th, 2007, 11:21pm
 
Is the cistern filled from the mains or from the loft storage tank?  Condensation is more likely if it's mains fed as the water coming into the cistern (at this time of year) is colder than the water sat in the storage tank in the loft.

This is 'cos the loft is slightly warmer than outside and the tank water has time to rise in temperature before entering the wc cistern.

Lot to be said for back-to-wall cisterns!  Smiley
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Reply #4 - Jan 21st, 2007, 12:44am
 
or just leave out the water!!!!      Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Cistern condensation
Reply #5 - Jan 21st, 2007, 9:24am
 

You are just being silly now Wolf  Roll Eyes

That would mean there is condensation inside as well as outside  :-D
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Reply #6 - Jan 21st, 2007, 9:31am
 
sparky415 wrote on Jan 21st, 2007, 9:24am:
You are just being silly now Wolf  Roll Eyes

That would mean there is condensation inside as well as outside  :-D

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Reply #7 - Jan 21st, 2007, 9:45am
 
TIMBA-WOLF wrote on Jan 21st, 2007, 12:44am:
or just leave out the water!!!!      Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Leaving out the water wouldn't stop it anyway.

Its the cold glossy surface that causes the problem, the same as tiles and gloss paint.

Also check the condensation levels using a bath against a shower.

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Reply #8 - Jan 21st, 2007, 9:53am
 
And I was going to say fill the cistern with expanding foam  Embarrassed Embarrassed
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sparky415 wrote on Jan 21st, 2007, 9:24am:
You are just being silly now Wolf  Roll Eyes
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YEP!   i sure was !!!

and even sillier now i've been waist deep in a  F-kin freezing river removing a fallen tree from power lines for the last few hours!

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Reply #10 - Jan 21st, 2007, 7:58pm
 

Scrumping for timber?   Wink
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Reply #11 - Jan 21st, 2007, 8:23pm
 
Nearly but not quite, .....

OKAY! so i bagged some of the timber, and will probably get more of it to!

but one of the "ESTATES" (country that is!) i help look after had a tree come down in the storms on Thursday,and it took out the 3 phase lines to the "ona pole" sub box!!  and good old EDF energy was a bit late in getting to the problem...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes like thursday, tikk SUNDAY! shame on you guys!!!!

the trouble is/was , they turned up with a 3 man  crew  but without any chain saws! ..and seeing as Wolf never leaves home with out one!! Wink, i was asked to help them out by the estate owner!

no here is where there small problem really lay, the Poplar tree was on one side of the River, it fell ACROSS the river at about 75° taking out the cables as they cross the river to the sub box!! trapping one with it!

so poor wolfie, ended up wading into it, ( wellingtons were a waste of effort!) just shy of waist deep, and removed from said tree,the two main trunks , releasing the cable!!

i made the 3 from edf help me remove the trunks prior to them starting on the cable of course,..quick change of lower clothes, and ooops! i set about sawing up the trunks!!!

and just spent the last 3 hours sizing it, and wax coating the ends so i can turn it on the lathe a few months from now..( maybe about 12-14 months time!!!! )

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Reply #12 - Jan 21st, 2007, 8:27pm
 
You're all bonkers.  Time for some sensible advice:

1) Get yourself a Mamod Steam Traction Engine from a good toy shop.

2) Throw away the Steam Engine but keep the methalated spirits burner.

3) Place the meths burner under the cold wc cistern and light........

4) The cistern will now be lovely and warm, no more condensation.

5) This may need topping up with meths every half hour or so.

6) As an added precaution, re-plumb the cistern feed using the flow (or return) pipe from the central heating system. (loop in - loop out)

7) You will now be able to dry large bath towels on the cistern.

If you need further help please contact me at Strangeways Psychiatric Hospital where I am taking a short break...........  Tongue Tongue

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Re: Cistern condensation
Reply #13 - Jan 21st, 2007, 8:34pm
 
Is heating the water such a daft idea?. You would probably only need to heat it a degree or two above room temperature. That wouldn't take much energy.... after all the room will warm up the water anyway and that energy is supplied by the central heating. Obviously the energy is lost when the loo is flushed so perhaps a grey water heat exchanger would be a good idea as well.

The problem is how to heat the water. How about arranging for the hot water you use to wash your hands to refill the loo? Quick patent the idea someone.  Smiley
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Reply #14 - Jan 24th, 2007, 7:19pm
 
Cheers - some interesting advice then!  Grin

Yep, it's a mains fed cistern.

Maybe an extractor fan would help but I always think they let cold air in when they're not extracting. Is that true?
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Reply #15 - Jan 24th, 2007, 8:22pm
 
I would replumb it from the loft storage tank (assuming you have one).  If this is too much grief then there's little else that can be done easily.  A btw cistern helps but again, that's a lot of work to change.

If it's mains fed then I assume you're getting condenstion on the copper supply pipe (to the wc cistern) too?  Is the wc overflow copper, that'll be even colder (as it pokes through the wall), if so change it to plastic.

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Re: Cistern condensation
Reply #16 - Jan 25th, 2007, 4:15pm
 
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Maybe an extractor fan would help but I always think they let cold air in when they're not extracting. Is that true?


They "let" in more cold air when running...just not necessarily in the same room. When the extractor is running it's pumping the warm damp air outside. That air has to be replaced by cold air coming in though trickle vents, gaps around windows and doors, down the chimney or even through the letterbox.

When you turn it off you might get some backflow through the fan but there are types with self sealing vents on the outside that can help prevent that.
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