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Replacing Radiator
Feb 12th, 2007, 5:34pm
 
Hi Guys

I want to replace a Rad I have with another one identical.

Is it correct that I need to stop the water mains, drain the system, and then open the valves on the rads prior to removing the rad?

k
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Re: Replacing Radiator
Reply #1 - Feb 12th, 2007, 7:30pm
 
Noooooooooooooooooo!  No need to drain down anything except the rad itself.  Turn off both valves and drain the rad contents into a low container (then into adjacent bucket).  

To drain a rad you crack open the connecting nut between the rad and the valve (either valve) and when water starts to flow, open the air vent at the top of the rad as this speed up the process.

When the rad is empty you can remove it (leaving the valves on the pipes!)

The old rad will still have some cruddy water in it so be aware of this otherwise you'll leave a trail of black oily water across the carpets.

Anyway, install new rad (assuming it is identical size), open valves, bleed out the air and you're done.

Approx time for this should be less than 30 minutes.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Feb 12th, 2007, 7:45pm
 
Cheers Buddy

Can I ask why everyone says to empty the system, etc then?

If I wanted to also add Thermostatic Valves then surely id need to empty the entire system?

I am assuming that in the above case I dont nede to empty entire system as the valves will stop any further water coming out?

Cheers buddy

KP
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Reply #3 - Feb 12th, 2007, 7:53pm
 
Ah, if you're changing the valves then you will need to drain down (or freeze the pipes as we do), but changing a rad for an identical size rad doesn't need the drain down if you keep the old valves.

Reasons to avoid a drain down are:

∼ The time it takes to drain down
∼ The time it takes to refill and bleed all the air out
∼ The cost of replacing the inhibitor
∼ Possibility of airlocks when refilling, especially if the installation is unknown to you.

These reasons are why we freeze the pipes as I reckon a drain down and refill costs me about £50 - £70 depending on the house  Shocked
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Reply #4 - Feb 12th, 2007, 8:10pm
 
Yeh....what do you recommend for Freezing Pipes?....

Do you do both ends? Or just the feed going into it, undo the nut, let the water come out...then being the replacement/

Isnt the issue with freezing pipes the time you have to get the job done?
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Reply #5 - Feb 12th, 2007, 8:44pm
 
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Yeh....what do you recommend for Freezing Pipes?....


We use large c0² cylinders, this sort of size ... and the Rothenberger hoses and freeze heads.  Bit ott for diy use.  Not really worth hiring anything for a one-off as the cost will outweigh the possible benefits.  If you are going to hire then get an electric one, these are slower to freeze but keep going as long as you have electricity.

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Do you do both ends? Or just the feed going into it, undo the nut, let the water come out...then being the replacement


If you're just changing one valve there's no need to freeze both supply pipes, just turn off the valve you're not freezing and empty  the rad in the normal way.  When the rad is removed you can check that the pipe is frozen by carefully opening the valve.

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Isnt the issue with freezing pipes the time you have to get the job done?


Can be, I've run out of gas before while working in a hot airing cupboard.  Panic, me, no.....................  Roll Eyes  We now have two of the c0² cylinders so we always have a full one as a spare!  Using the electric freezers means you don't have this worry but the freeze heads on electric freezers are rather large whereas the gas freeze heads are tiny by comparison.  This can mean the difference between being able to freeze or not.  Smiley
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Reply #6 - Feb 13th, 2007, 12:37am
 
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