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Mar 25th, 2009, 12:08pm
 
Hi, i have an LED message display unit, its supplied with a 5volt power adaptor with connecting cable to mains, is there any way i can connect this unit to a cigar port in a vehicle to operate it while mobile?
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Re: moving message display
Reply #1 - Mar 25th, 2009, 2:20pm
 
Yes.

Firstly though, is the 5v input shown as AC or DC?  Can you find the mA rating of either the sign or the transformer you normally use to plug it in?

Can you see a visible symbol like these?  Which is it?

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Reply #2 - Mar 25th, 2009, 2:42pm
 
Thanks, the 5volt input is DC, and the symbol is the bottom one on your post.
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Reply #3 - Mar 25th, 2009, 2:48pm
 
It also says on the power adaptor TH-5V6A-R
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Reply #4 - Mar 25th, 2009, 3:12pm
 
Something like this would suit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DC-CAR-ADAPTOR%2fCONVERTER-2100MA-3V%2f3.3V%2f5V%2f6V%2f6....

You would need to ensure you set the voltage correctly and did not allow anyone to alter that!

It comes with a selection of plug ends which you simply plug onto the lead.  Switching the plug 180° will reverse the polarity (and two diagrams above).

A fairly good price too.
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Reply #5 - Mar 25th, 2009, 5:56pm
 
Thanks for that
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Re: moving message display
Reply #6 - Mar 25th, 2009, 9:33pm
 
Hey, Rocky, man after my own heart.

So you're going to stick it in the back of your motor with three pre-programmed phrases.

1) Please don't drive too close

2) You're still driving too close

3) Get the f**k out of my boot!!
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Reply #7 - Mar 26th, 2009, 12:00am
 
Hold on a moment..  Is it possible that "TH-5V6A-R" means 5V 6Amp? In which case the suggested power supply is too small at only 2.1A.

Need to check what current it really needs. Those LED arrays can soon add up.
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Reply #8 - Mar 26th, 2009, 7:43am
 
Eerrrr......... didn't he say he already has the mains adaptor, but wants to power it from his car? A bespoke adaptor would be pretty easy to design / make, but I'm too busy with other things right now.
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Reply #9 - Mar 26th, 2009, 10:19am
 
Yes that's right but how much current does the car adaptor need to deliver? eg What does the display require?

The part number for the mains adaptor he has hints that it might be rated for 6A (eg 30W). The car adaptor suggested above is rated for only 2.1A (10.5W).

Edit:

Finding a 12V to 5V 30w car adaptor off the shelf isn't easy (at least I couldn't google one) Most car adaptors of that power rating are for laptops and produce 15V rather than 5V.

If the display needs 6A (30W) and you can't find one either you could use one of these to turn 12V into 240V AND then the mains adaptor supplied with the display. Less efficient but would work fine.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=218810

A smaller and more efficient solution (but more expensive) would be to buy a DC-DC converter module. Farnel has them but at a price. You also need a cigar lighter plug etc

http://uk.farnell.com/sunpower/sds-030a05/converter-dc-dc-35w-5v/dp/1254988

If the thing does indeed take 30W then probably best not to leave it running for too many hours with the engine off. The battery might have the capacity but car batteries don't tend to live long if deep discharged.
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Re: moving message display
Reply #10 - Mar 26th, 2009, 1:35pm
 
if the guy has a mains to 5v adaptor/transformer,( which was his first statement in his question!!!)  then all the guy needs is an inverter, and toolstation do one for less than £30.... upto 300w    i have one in my works vehicles so... if in the middle of no where we need to charge the cordless batteries we can!!!

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Electrical/Extension+Leads+RCDs/Power+Inverter+3...

as that stuffed animal on the ad on tv states......

SIMPLES!!!!!!!!


gawd, life is complicated enough with out adaptors from this to that an back again....
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Reply #11 - Mar 26th, 2009, 1:37pm
 
I do apologise, ignore my post, I looked at the adaptors at the top of the e-bay page which were mains!! What a plonker!!

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Eerrrr......... didn't he say he already has the mains adaptor, but wants to power it from his car? A bespoke adaptor would be pretty easy to design / make, but I'm too busy with other things right now.

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Re: moving message display
Reply #12 - Mar 26th, 2009, 3:23pm
 
I guess we had better wait for the 'mA' or 'A' figure from the current transformer or ideally the sign itself.

If you cant find a 'mA' or 'A' figure, is there a wattage printed (w)?
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Re: moving message display
Reply #13 - Mar 27th, 2009, 8:29am
 
TIMBA-WOLF wrote on Mar 26th, 2009, 1:35pm:
if the guy has a mains to 5v adaptor/transformer,( which was his first statement in his question!!!)  then all the guy needs is an inverter,


That's what the maplin link I posted is...

£20 http://www.harcon.co.uk/slatetileridge/ridgeline.aspx

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Reply #14 - Mar 27th, 2009, 2:52pm
 
Thanks for all the info guys, while looking at Ebay i found a scrolling display purpose made for cars costs £19.99 so ive bought that seemed the easier option.
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