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work dead or live
Dec 11th, 2009, 8:30pm
 
what are the procedures to assess in deciding to work live or dead?
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Re: work dead or live
Reply #1 - Dec 11th, 2009, 8:39pm
 
Working as standard sparky, there is no excuse for working live.  Everything should be done dead.

The DNO's (the guys who maintain the electricity supplies in the streets) work live when they need to, but they have very stringent rules in regarding this (two people at all times, gauntlets, flameproof matts, insulating matts, and plenty of training).  Even then, they do not make any connections under load - everything is done with circuits open (the fuse removed from customers cut out etc).

There is a small area where working live is practiced as a normal sparky.  In a commercial or industrial installation where you need to work inside a distribution board to add a new circuit (for example).  There would live busbars, tightning of the MCB screw onto a live busbar etc.  This is done everyday, but really should not be.

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Re: work dead or live
Reply #2 - Dec 12th, 2009, 12:34am
 
Google 'The Electricity At Work Act.

I have worked 'live' frequently during my 25 years in maintenance, but now I work 'dead' as far as is reasonably & practically possible'.

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Re: work dead or live
Reply #3 - Dec 12th, 2009, 11:13am
 
The_Trician wrote on Dec 12th, 2009, 12:34am:
Google 'The Electricity At Work Act.


FFS, TT.  Undecided



Rapid Rab - it's Regulation 14 of the Electricity at Work Regulations 1989.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19890635_en_1.htm

You should have to hand a copy of HSR25 - the Memorandum of Guidance on these regulations:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/PUBNS/books/hsr25.htm

And HSG85 is a useful reference to have.

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Re: work dead or live
Reply #4 - Dec 12th, 2009, 8:27pm
 
Same dog, only more spots......

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Re: work dead or live
Reply #5 - Dec 12th, 2009, 8:55pm
 
all work should be done dead but most sparks will do some live working.

very rarely do you see guys isolate the full consumer unit if they are just adding an extra cct into existing cu

you look at the situation and do your own risk assesment and if it goes wrong you have nobody else to blame.

doesnt matter how much you legislate or what regulations you put in once guys are out on site (smaller sites) you cant control what they are doing
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Reply #6 - Dec 14th, 2009, 11:27pm
 
i am doing a college course and this was 1 of the questions and i couldn't think of the answer Embarrassed but your answers have helped me thanks.
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