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mikespeed Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5 Total Thanks: 0 For This Post: 0	Re: bathrooms Reply #17 - Apr 20^th, 2004, 8:53pm hi confused all i dont remember seeing a fire door on the plans, if need be then we will have one. any questions anyone?
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big_all Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline heeelllooo Posts: 5591 Total Thanks: 10 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: bathrooms Reply #16 - Apr 19^th, 2004, 10:53pm im confused dont we need a fire door for additional floor!!!!!!!!!
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HM Super Member Offline Chief Turd Polisher Posts: 5072 Total Thanks: 0 For This Post: 0 Gender:	Re: bathrooms Reply #15 - Apr 19^th, 2004, 10:00pm [quote author=mikespeed link=1082318454/0#14 date=1082408285]this is going to be difficult one this one, i can see it... [/quote] Have no fear, help is at hand.....don't forget that a problem shared is a lot of people totally confused! Andrew
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mikespeed Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5 Total Thanks: 0 For This Post: 0	Re: bathrooms Reply #14 - Apr 19^th, 2004, 9:58pm okay... the door that is not there leads to the stair up to the loft. there is a door to the rest of the house (lockable) the wc in the bathroom also has it's own door. plus, we are all friends here............ this is going to be difficult one this one, i can see it...
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HM Super Member Offline Chief Turd Polisher Posts: 5072 Total Thanks: 0 For This Post: 0 Gender:	Re: bathrooms Reply #13 - Apr 19^th, 2004, 9:45pm A bathroom with no door? Hell, I hope you get on with your friends when they come round and need to take a leak Andrew
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Reply #12 - Apr 19^th, 2004, 9:20pm

wow, to much to take in here
regs are availible, but we need to plan layout.
this is a mid terrage property.
the attic joists are 3x2 which i intent to double up, new stairs will be fitted straight down to the bathroom (no door)
a door from the said bathroom will then lead to the next room (kitchen)
first floor joists are 7 x 2.5, part new.

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Reply #11 - Apr 19^th, 2004, 3:33pm

if you was having aloft conversion done covered by building &fire regs youre stairs would have to exit on to a landing as you are effectively creating another storey to youre house you have to have a fire break between the new storey and the landing .
legally there isnt nothing to stop you putting a fixed staicase into youre bathroom while you are living there(without building regs)BUT,youre loft conversion cant be counted as living space .this will become apparent if sell youre house.
this is when the building&fire regs will "kickin". then you would have to rip out the staircase &put back the ceiling to its original state.ps god forbid .but if ever had to make a claim against youre insurance for fire you would find it null &void.

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Reply #10 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 11:36pm

[quote author=Building_Control link=1082318454/0#9 date=1082327453]I cant see a problem with a bedroom being served though an ensuite, its odd but so what? [/quote]

We don't know enough about the installation to be sure, however I would have thought that if the staircase came down in a room with a door on it then it might break fire regulations - because in a smoke filled building you might have difficulty finding the door knob (or the door might be locked?).

A staircase is a means of escape in a fire situation, so putting physical roadblocks in the way must surely raise some eyebrows?

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Building_Control Trade Member Offline Dont ask me Im lost too! Posts: 57 Total Thanks: 0 For This Post: 0 Trade: Not Specified	Re: bathrooms Reply #9 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 11:30pm I cant see a problem with a bedroom being served though an ensuite, its odd but so what? you do have Building Regs?
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splinter GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 0 For This Post: 0	Re: bathrooms Reply #8 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 10:03pm looked at this one a couple of times. read handymacs repl(3rd paragraph ) got a picture of alittle senario likethat happening now ive got a fit of the giggles maybe m/speed wiil give us a bit more detail
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big_all Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline heeelllooo Posts: 5591 Total Thanks: 10 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: bathrooms Reply #7 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 9:48pm does your attic floor comply with building regs mikespeed
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big_all Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline heeelllooo Posts: 5591 Total Thanks: 10 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: bathrooms Reply #6 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 9:46pm hard to tell it might be without building permision
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HM Super Member Offline Chief Turd Polisher Posts: 5072 Total Thanks: 0 For This Post: 0 Gender:	Re: bathrooms Reply #5 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 9:45pm You could be right about that. I just noticed the plural "floors" in the original. However, if it is a staircase then it might be iffy to bring it down into a bathroom because the staircase would be a fire escape, and the bathroom door could potentially be a barricade. Can't see the BCO being happy about that. Andrew
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thescruff Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline Who said plumbing was easy. Posts: 5885 Total Thanks: 113 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Plumber	Re: bathrooms Reply #4 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 9:43pm I had the impression the bedroom was allready there. plum b
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big_all Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline heeelllooo Posts: 5591 Total Thanks: 10 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: bathrooms Reply #3 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 9:40pm dont foget youll probbably need a floating floor unless your joists �are approaching 8x2 inch
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thescruff Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline Who said plumbing was easy. Posts: 5885 Total Thanks: 113 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Plumber	Re: bathrooms Reply #2 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 9:38pm If it was en-suite theres no different to being on the same floor. Still need permission though. plumb
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Re: bathrooms
Reply #1 - Apr 18^th, 2004, 9:34pm

Loft stairs, not loft ladder? Loft ladder should be okay if you are just storing the odd stuff up there.

If stairs then it suggests you are making the loft area into a habitable place where you will spend time (like a loft conversion). If so then I think you are going to need planning permission, and your questions will get answered by the BCO assigned to the job.

I wouldn't think it would be desirable to have stairs coming down into a bathroom, even if it is legit. If someone was up in the loft and came down they might find someone sat on the loo (or worse...). Not very good for privacy!

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