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Power mad!!!
Jun 9th, 2004, 4:15pm
 
Well guys I got me new De Walt 625ek at last, WOW! what a machine, I have had an Elu MOF96 for many years now and thought that was the bees knees for a small router. This new machine is a monster!. The build quailty is as good as the old Elu's and is certainly made to last and take the knocks. The switch is the old slide on/off and not the new mamby pamby dead man that you have to tape up to mount in a table. Can't wait to start on those worktops now, I am a poewr crazy muther now alright, LOL. I think I may have to take a weightlifting course though as it is a tad on the heavy side.  Wink They have even uprated it to 2000Watt and increased the plunge depth to 80mm!!. A lot of greenbacks but worth every penny I think. I can smell that dust now, come on you punters.  Grin
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Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2004, 5:07pm
 
fantastic such pasion for a tool Shocked Shocked Shocked

i know what you mean you get a new tool
dead keen to use it cant find a suitible excuse
to use it  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
so you invent somthing you need to make
just so you can use it

the biggest bug bear will as said before
trying to push the machine weight against
the spring whilst trying to secure plunge
lock Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2004, 7:31pm
 
Well okay, call me a greenback in router terms if you wish, but.....

I have always thought that despite the power the router can deliver there was a de facto limit on the amount of cut that can be taken in a single pass.

Reason is twofold. Firstly, when the router bit chomps some material it has to dispose of it by chucking it sideways. Surely there is a limit beyond which it isn't possible to take off more material?

Secondly, router cutters in motion against material generate heat. I would have thought that if you tried to dispose of too much material in one go then the bit wouldn't be able to transfer the heat, so it would get hot.

Am I talking thru my defacation device? Smiley

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Reply #3 - Jun 9th, 2004, 8:19pm
 
You're thinking that power = speed Andrew.
You can get a low powered car that will go fast but will not have the power to climb a steep hill.
I used to ride a Honda 90cc that could take on any of the BSA bantams of the time.
It had no guts on anything but level ground though.
Think of it in those terms.
Many routers are intended for occasional use.
That DW625 will run all day every day & is a lot more comfortable to use for hours at a time than say a Trend T9.
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Reply #4 - Jun 9th, 2004, 8:22pm
 
heeelllooo andrew

correct on all points

the amount you cut depends on the cutter size
but also the shank diameter

eg small shank or small cutter small cuts

large shank large cutter fewer cuts

harder the wood slower the cutter

softer the wood full speed ahead
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Reply #5 - Jun 9th, 2004, 8:25pm
 
another point andrew if its cutting a groove

youve got a nice empty trench behind

so what doesnt go flying can fill the trench Wink
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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2004, 8:57pm
 
mailee glad you are ecstatic with your purchase but

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I can smell that dust now, come on you punters


You need a better dust mask Grin


Andrew, one problem with a really powerful router is that, with some cutters, it will take such a big cut that it is not possible to use the machine by hand and it has to be used in a router table. Also if you try to take off too much in one go you will get a very poor finish. Some cutters are made with high shoulders to prevent too big a cut.
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Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2004, 10:40pm
 
yeah I agree with you guys entirely, it is no use trying to plunge too deep with any router as the more shallow the cut the better the finish, besides it takes more handling trying to take too big a bite with a handheld router. It is a powerful beast no doubt about it but as big all stated it is not all speed and is controlable power which if used correctly can cut much more effectively for a given size of plunge. Remember the golden rule: Never cut more than the diameter of the shank being used!. As for the saw dust woodsmith, this model has a far better dust extraction chute than the old Elu 96 I have as it is independant from the side fence rods. All in all a wonderful tool and more comfortable to use than many on the market today as I think Dewey will attest. As for my passion for it big all, well it is the most versatile tol in the workshop is it not?.  Wink
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Re: Power mad!!!
Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2004, 11:13pm
 
hellloooeee mailee
im wondering if they have uprated the power
and have encorperated a better dust extraction
[a bigger imperller] so they could use more power
for better dust extraction without affecting
performance

and youre right about versatility
what other machine can cut  groove shape mould
drill holes do half lap joints  give you a perfect circle
write letters and name plates
and make your wrists ache  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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