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Wood Drill Bits
Jan 18th, 2005, 1:52pm
 
Hello

I am installing plumbing and heating to a new house in Sussex, the client is keen to avoid pipes on view, the house is timber framed and the walls are stud partition approx 50mm at the point I need to drill and sometimes there is a double timber, I always insulate all my pipework, I need to drill holes in the stud work and need the hole to be 40mm to allow the pipe and insulation to pass easily through, what is the best drill bit to use, flat bits seem to take a long time to drill through and start to get very hot, the same for hole saws, I was hoping to get a 40mm Auger bit but the biggest I have found is 32mm any ideas

Thanks for your help
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Re: Wood Drill Bits
Reply #1 - Jan 18th, 2005, 4:56pm
 
My first thought was a Forstner bit but these may not have the depth you need. Axminster Power tools sell sawtooth cutters they are about 130mm long and you can get them up to 50mm diameter.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=22801&recno=8
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Reply #2 - Jan 18th, 2005, 4:59pm
 
Forsner bits s/f pt. no 83345 or an expansive bit 17377 (I havn't used the latter) the forstner bits are very good
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Reply #3 - Jan 18th, 2005, 7:46pm
 
Thanks for that, I knew there must be better wood bits around than the usual ones us plumbers use.
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Reply #4 - Jan 18th, 2005, 7:55pm
 
Am i stupid  Grin or am i reading you are planning to drill a 40mm hole through a 50mm stud so therefore leaving 5mm either side? Shocked
If you need to you can call me stupid,its the way i read the question Embarrassed
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Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2005, 8:10pm
 
No the stud is 100mm in width it is 50mm in depth.

There are some very good sets of Forstner bits availiable from 6mm to 51mm, is there an extension that you can get for these bits, as you say woodsmith they lack in depthe as some of the studs are double, so 100mm in total
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Reply #6 - Jan 18th, 2005, 8:12pm
 
Could you not just insulate up to and beyond the studwork?

I never have any problems just using a hole saw, I do a lot of large holes through joists for waste pipes and they go through ok with a right angle drill
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Reply #7 - Jan 18th, 2005, 8:58pm
 
The Forstner bits lack the depth which is why I recommended the sawtooth bit. Axminster do two shank extensions one at 13mm and one at 1/2", £17.60 each so not cheap. I still think you would be better off with the Sawtooth cutter, and it will cut 100mm deep.

Forstner and sawtooth bits are not the fastest or easiest bits to use, an auger would be best but unfortunately they don't make one big enough. I'm not sure you would find a set of them so useful unless you need to make very clean holes.

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Reply #8 - Jan 18th, 2005, 9:01pm
 
I do not like the pipework to touch the wood  at all, there is no chance of any creaking noises if the pipe is not in direct contact with the timber.
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Reply #9 - Jan 18th, 2005, 9:50pm
 
If you have a local costco, they have a really good set of forstner/sawtooth cutters.  Too cold to look in the van right now but will check tomorrow.  I think they are forstener up to about 25mm then sawtooth
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Reply #10 - Jan 18th, 2005, 10:02pm
 
[quote author=woodsmith  link=1106056328/0#1 date=1106067396]My first thought was a Forstner bit but these may not have the depth you need. Axminster Power tools sell sawtooth cutters they are about 130mm long and you can get them up to 50mm diameter.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=22801&recno=8
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Woodsmith, what's the difference between a Forstener bit and a Saw Tooth bit?  They look the same to me.
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Re: Wood Drill Bits
Reply #11 - Jan 18th, 2005, 10:06pm
 
[quote author=chippysmith  link=1106056328/0#2 date=1106067585] or an expansive bit 17377 (I havn't used the latter) the forstner bits are very good [/quote]

I've got one of those expansive jobs and they are pretty good.  I got it to drill mounting holes for monobloc taps in worktops, and I was well chuffed with the result.  

Rochester Tools do them, but they are much dearer than the ScrewPhux ones.  If you want one Plumber, I can get a deal from them, and you can pick it up next time you're over this way...

Windy
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Re: Wood Drill Bits
Reply #12 - Jan 19th, 2005, 8:10am
 
Jerry the Forstner bits have 2 cutting edges wheras the sawtooth cutters have a sawtooth edge, basically it allows you to drill into end grain which Forstner bits won't.
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Reply #13 - Jan 19th, 2005, 10:37am
 
[quote author=woodsmith  link=1106056328/0#12 date=1106122257]Jerry the Forstner bits have 2 cutting edges wheras the sawtooth cutters have a sawtooth edge, basically it allows you to drill into end grain which Forstner bits won't. [/quote]

Many thanks  Smiley
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