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greg GDPR opt-out	MDF in bathrooms Dec 22^nd, 2006, 5:44pm Is it OK to use MDF in bathrooms. It won't be too close to bath, about 1m away. I was thinking of sealing it with some diluted PVA Any other suggestions on how to seal it Cheers
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jasonB GDPR opt-out	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #1 - Dec 22^nd, 2006, 6:05pm What exactly is it being used for?. At the very least you should use MR (Moisture Resistant) grade, this has a green core or is green all the way through I have used it for T&G panneling in the past with oil based paint finish and not had problems. Jason
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Reply #2 - Dec 22^nd, 2006, 6:10pm

heeelllooo gregg Grin

the trouble with mdf is once it gets wet it swells and pretty much quickly looses its strength

you would only need a pinhole and because it swells so much it would more than likely "rip" any protection

what exactly are you making !!!!!!!

having said that i was prepaired[at there risk]to install txg effect routerd 12mm mdf
it was well painted and still good as new as when installed 2 years ago although it behind skirting [so 2" clear off the floor] and a few inches clear of danger zones [bath and sink]

jasons using 2 fingers again to type faster than me Grin

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jasonB GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 10 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #3 - Dec 22^nd, 2006, 6:56pm No I'm not, I'm waving them at you Jason
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big_all Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline heeelllooo Posts: 5596 Total Thanks: 10 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #4 - Dec 22^nd, 2006, 8:09pm Quote: No I'm not, I'm waving them at you Jason oooohhhhhh and what are you typing with then
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Scrit GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 10 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #5 - Dec 22^nd, 2006, 9:50pm big_all wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2006, 8:09pm: Quote: No I'm not, I'm waving them at you Jason oooohhhhhh and what are you typing with then Obviously his prehensile, silly, but I'm not sure which prehensile...... Scrit
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TIMBA-WOLF Board Moderator Offline Timba-Wolf..... Var@*sh, should be banned!! Posts: 7158 Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0 KENT,(under a tree!!!!) United Kingdom Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #6 - Dec 22^nd, 2006, 11:38pm is it his "planer" or his "THICKNESSER"!!!!!
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JerryD GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #7 - Dec 23^rd, 2006, 7:55am Ahem....... back to the topic..... MDF is used by most of the bathroom furniture manufacturers and bath panel manufacturers. How do they ensure there's no swelling (ooooer missus) :-D If it's oil based painted all round then surely there's not a problem? Or am I talking rubbish (again)
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Reply #8 - Dec 23^rd, 2006, 8:00am

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MDF is used by most of the bathroom furniture manufacturers and bath panel manufacturers. How do they ensure there's no swelling (ooooer missus) :-D

The doors are often made from MR-MDF with a backing of melamine and the facing from pressure/heat bonded vinyl. Carcasses appear to be from MFC (melamine-faced chipboard) and the ones I've seen just seem to be like kitchen cabs, although a bit more silicone gets used to seal all the joints.........

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greg GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #9 - Dec 23^rd, 2006, 12:47pm Thanks chaps Its to make a cupboard in the corner of the bathroom to store......bathroomy bits in and linen bin. Problem with moisture resistant is availabilty, would have to order it in. From what you all say, ill use oil based paint and hopefully be OK
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woodsmith Global Moderator Trade Member Author Offline Posts: 4407 Total Thanks: 137 For This Post: 0 Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #10 - Dec 23^rd, 2006, 1:12pm I've made quite a bit of bathroom furniture from standard MDF and had no problems, it does need very careful painting though. Moisture resistant MDF is the way to go if you can get it, Travis Perkins normally stock a few sizes.
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TIMBA-WOLF Board Moderator Offline Timba-Wolf..... Var@*sh, should be banned!! Posts: 7158 Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0 KENT,(under a tree!!!!) United Kingdom Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #11 - Dec 23^rd, 2006, 1:43pm Greg,,, helpful snippets!... http://www.mlmuk.com/html/Exterior%20MDF.pdf and also http://www.jewson.co.uk/en/templates/product/ProductArticle.jsp?PageId=ProductAr... they have branches in east devon, that stock MR MDF!
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CWatters Super Member Offline "Daddy fick it" says James Posts: 5150 Total Thanks: 58 For This Post: 0 Gender:	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #12 - Dec 23^rd, 2006, 10:08pm We had problems with the vanity unit in our last house. The corners were the problem. a little bit of water gets in and it swells the wood opening up the hole so more water can get in.
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runninwata GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 58 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #13 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 1:40pm I have done my entire bathroom vanity furniture using standard grade MDF I will add i ensured it was well painted 1 x coat oil based undercoat and three coats oil based gloss applied with a roller, this was constructed over 3 years ago and there is no ill effetct yet regards steve
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TIMBA-WOLF Board Moderator Offline Timba-Wolf..... Var@*sh, should be banned!! Posts: 7158 Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0 KENT,(under a tree!!!!) United Kingdom Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #14 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 9:25pm Quote: this was constructed over 3 years ago and there is no ill effetct yet thats because he ain't plumbed in the white ware yet!!!!!!! well he IS a plumber!!!!!! sorry RW........ ( you know, the old saying... plumbers home..tap drips... brickies home, loose bricks etc etc!!!)
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CJTElectrical GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #15 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 9:47pm ( you know, the old saying... plumbers home..tap drips... brickies home, loose bricks etc etc!!!) [/quote] never heard this saying b4 does anyone know what the rest of the saying is. cheers cjt
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Re: MDF in bathrooms
Reply #16 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 9:57pm

brickies home...loose bricks, falling down walls...

plumbers home, dripping taps, leaking pipes

sparkies home, blown bulbs ..duff wiring...(pre part p of course)

carpenters home, no doors hanging, no fixed trim/skirting

in other words, we are so damned feed up of our jobs at work time, we don't tend to practice our jobs at home!!!!!

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Reply #17 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 10:06pm

it dow look like this applies to me then as ive fully rewired house top to bottom, full galaxy alarm system in, and dialler on confirmed tamper and powercut
cctv system fully working (10 static cameras, 16ch dvr, 2 speed domes front and back, cam in shed, and pan tilt cam in woodland and this is all finished only thing i will be doing tommorrow is puttting spot lights in soffits in side entry was going to do today but it started raining!!

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TIMBA-WOLF Board Moderator Offline Timba-Wolf..... Var@*sh, should be banned!! Posts: 7158 Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0 KENT,(under a tree!!!!) United Kingdom Gender: Trade: Joiner	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #18 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 10:13pm Quote: but it started raining!! feeble excuse,.... ... a bit of leccy and water didn't hurt no one!!!!! the saying does not apply to me neither, it is just an old saying, .. more the majority .. not the rule!
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Reply #19 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 10:29pm

TIMBA-WOLF wrote on Dec 30^th, 2006, 10:13pm:

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but it started raining!!

feeble excuse,.... Grin

... a bit of leccy and water didn't hurt no one!!!!! Smiley

the saying does not apply to me neither, it is just an old saying, .. more the majority .. not the rule!

no it wasnt the leccy and water that i was worried about it was me getting my hair wet!! :-D
ill post a piccy of my consumer unit when i open it again.

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Reply #20 - Dec 30^th, 2006, 10:30pm

oh and the speed dome outside the front and back of our house is really cool you can see for miles but obvously we dont!
to be fair tho i have totally sorted all the probs now and certied it to NICEIC snd i spose u could say i dont have to worry about it now.
i will say tho i love my cctv tho its more a hobby as well as security on the property when we are not there.
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Re: MDF in bathrooms
Reply #21 - Jan 2^nd, 2007, 1:05pm

TIMBA-WOLF wrote on Dec 30^th, 2006, 9:57pm:

brickies home...loose bricks, falling down walls...

plumbers home, dripping taps, leaking pipes

sparkies home, blown bulbs ..duff wiring...(pre part p of course)

carpenters home, no doors hanging, no fixed trim/skirting

in other words, we are so damned feed up of our jobs at work time, we don't tend to practice our jobs at home!!!!!

Same goes for me as an accountant - accountants spend all day looking after other people's money and their own accounts are in a mess. But in my case it's because I am always buying new power tools...!! Roll Eyes

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CJTElectrical GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #22 - Jan 2^nd, 2007, 6:48pm what power tools do accountants require? thought they used a calculator and pen/pencil/ruler etc cjt
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what power tools do accountants require? thought they used a calculator and pen/pencil/ruler etc
cjt

now come on CJTE...

drills ( punching holes in A4 paper!) sanders ( to make good round holes in A4 paper!)
circular saws ( for cutting sheets of A4 in half!)
planers ( for trimming up badly cut !/2 sheets of A4 paper!)
dust extract system... ( for removing the waste when rubbing out wrong calcs!!!! ) oh the list is endless!!

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CJTElectrical GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #24 - Jan 2^nd, 2007, 7:59pm oh i c well you learn sommut new every day!! :-D :-D :-D cjt
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Reply #25 - Jan 3^rd, 2007, 1:12pm

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what power tools do accountants require? thought they used a calculator and pen/pencil/ruler etc
cjt

I'm not your 'average' accountant - by day I'm a mild mannered counter of numbers, but by night (and at weekends) I'm a hardcore wood worker!!!

Who needs a computer and calculator when you can have much more fun with a mitre saw and a biscuit jointer!!!

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CJTElectrical GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #26 - Jan 3^rd, 2007, 4:23pm ok i see i thought you was a full time accountant and that was the only thing you did, did not realise that you did wood woirking too. cjt
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bik038 GDPR opt-out Total Thanks: 15 For This Post: 0	Re: MDF in bathrooms Reply #27 - Jan 3^rd, 2007, 5:01pm Quote: ok i see i thought you was a full time accountant and that was the only thing you did, did not realise that you did wood woirking too. cjt Unfortunately I am a full time accountant - it pays the mortgage! Wood working is my hobby and my passion (which is handy because 'err indoors always finds projects for me to do...!).
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