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Replacement bathroom fan
Feb 15th, 2009, 1:20pm
 
The fan in my bathroom recently broke and I nave now bought a new replacement. The problem is that the old one had a timer and thus 3 wires in whereas the new one has no timer and only 2 wires. Is it still possible to fit this fan or do I need to buy a different type? any halp will be much appreciated.
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Re: Replacement bathroom fan
Reply #1 - Feb 15th, 2009, 2:25pm
 
Hiya

Presuming you are happy with one without a timer, and don't wish to take it back and get a timer model, then you can have it operate when the light comes on and go off when the light goes off.

If this is the case, you should have three or four cables, Red/Yellow/Blue/Green&Yellow stripey. Or you might have Brown/Black/Grey/Green&Yellow stripey.

Either way it's likely to be wired

Red/Brown = Permanent live (For timer fans)
Yellow/Black = Switched live (Only on when light is on)
Blue/Grey = Neutral
Green&Yellow stripey = Earth (Safety connection)

You need to connect yellow/black to the live on the new fan, and the blue/grey to the neutral on the fan. The other cables need to be safely connected into some small screw terminal block.

It may be that your cables have been coloured with insulation tape or sleeving to red & black or brown & blue. But providing you put the blue in the neutral, and one of the reds in the live it should work. If the fan stays on permanently then swap the reds over.

Make sure you turn the power off at the fuse board or consumer unit first. NOT just at the light switch as this won't turn off all power. If you find it too complicated or confusing call an electrician in for sure. Turn the light switch off and on once turned off at the consumer unit or fuse board to make sure the power is off to the light.
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Reply #2 - Feb 15th, 2009, 2:50pm
 
Many thanks for your reply, I am happy without the timer so should all be ok!
Will turn off the mains to be safe.
Once again many thanks.
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Reply #3 - Mar 23rd, 2009, 12:15pm
 
I've just installed a new one that I got from TLC, I am very impressed with how quiet it is.
Incidentally, can someone remind me why I need a fan isolator when the light swithch is outside the bathroom & the fan is in the loft (which has a completely seperate light source)? If someone wants this isolated they can pull the fuse (yes, it's is a real fuse, I've just moved!) for the lights!
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Re: Replacement bathroom fan
Reply #4 - Mar 23rd, 2009, 12:39pm
 
All fixed appliances (extract fan)  should have a local isolator within close proximity (close to the fan and in the loft)
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Reply #5 - Mar 23rd, 2009, 5:47pm
 
Hi Twobarrows

An isolator is required so maintenance can be carried out safely on the fan should it be required. This should be wired independently from the supply to the light. For a timer fan you would need to isolate the permanent live, the switched live, and the neutral, hence the 3-pole isolator requirement. If you controlled the fan manually via a DP switch near to the fan, and it didn’t have an over-run/timer facility, then the DP switch would suffice.
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Re: Replacement bathroom fan
Reply #6 - Mar 23rd, 2009, 5:57pm
 
And dont do as FAR too many sparks do and install an isolator above the door........when the actuall fan is in the loft!

The isolator should be within sight, and ideally adajcent the item it isolates (unless it can be locked off.....which standard fan isolators cannot).

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Reply #7 - Mar 24th, 2009, 7:57am
 
Lectrician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2009, 5:57pm:
And dont do as FAR too many sparks do and install an isolator above the door........when the actuall fan is in the loft!

The isolator should be within sight, and ideally adajcent the item it isolates (unless it can be locked off.....which standard fan isolators cannot).



That was why I asked, it would have been a pain to put an isolator above the door anyhow. I'll stick an switch in the loft whern I get round to it (isolating the feed for both live & switched live), in the meantime it will be the fuse!! Cheers.........
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