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What's in a cable?
Jul 22nd, 2009, 5:31pm
 
Bloody everything!

Digital signal breaking up over the past couple of weeks. They're pratting around with the Sutton Coldfield transmitter, but this was worse than you'd expect from the 'normal' pixelation and as it was possible to improve or make it worse by jiggling the cable from the wall mounted power unit to the aerial socket it appeared to be that.

Called the engineer out because the whole thing froze last night. As soon as he came (with his mate) they both went: "Ah, white cable."

They changed all the aerial cables and the picture's brilliant, better than it's ever been in fact. And no more pixelation at all! £25 and they'd come seven miles.
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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #1 - Jul 22nd, 2009, 6:10pm
 
Probably fitted PF100 sat grade coax?
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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #2 - Jul 22nd, 2009, 6:14pm
 
Digital grade coax such as CT100 or PF100 etc has a copper foil and copper braid.

Analouge satallite has an aluminium foil.

Older terrestrial has no foil, just a braid.

You get all flavours of the above in air-spaced and foam dielectric.  Foam is used outdoors to prevent water ingress, and is less easily deformed when bending.  Air spaced is for indoor use and is made because it is cheaper.

They make many cables for many purposes.  They are all different for a reason Wink

It annoys me when alarm guys use alarm cable for telephones, or DIYERS use telephone cable for alarms.
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Reply #3 - Jul 22nd, 2009, 7:52pm
 
What amused me was that they'd fitted that white cable when the digital aerial was fitted a few years back. And the NEW cable they fitted between the power unit and the tv was white. Obviously a better shade of white.

Oh, and we can now get Film4 again.
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Reply #4 - Jul 22nd, 2009, 11:07pm
 
this FILM4, is that cling film ,or copper foil!!!!!


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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #5 - Jul 23rd, 2009, 8:04am
 
All together now... Cheesy
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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #6 - Jul 23rd, 2009, 7:47pm
 
Lots of good information on this site..

http://www.aerialsandtv.com

From top to bottom.. Poor, better, best.

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The top one has no foil screen, the middle one has aluminium foil and the bottom on copper foil.

The colour of sleve is irrelevant. They sell the same cable in Black, brown or white. The good stuff is only 40p a meter so it's not going to break the bank..  

http://www.aerialsandtv.com/onlinecableandmisc.html#Cable

I hope the plug for ATV is OK. I have no connection with them but they do provide a heck of a lot of good information on their web site.
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Reply #7 - Aug 4th, 2009, 11:27am
 
Lectrician wrote on Jul 22nd, 2009, 6:14pm:
t for a reason Wink

It annoys me when alarm guys use alarm cable for telephones, or DIYERS use telephone cable for alarms.


Pray tell, why shouldn't I use telephone cable for alarms?
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Reply #8 - Aug 4th, 2009, 2:17pm
 
Because you don't want your phone to ring when your alarm goes off  Grin
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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #9 - Aug 4th, 2009, 2:33pm
 
Every cable is designed for a purpose.

Why would you want to use telephone cable for alarms?  It can't be a cost issue as there is nothing in it!

Telephone cable is not stranded and not really designed for screw terminals (even though cheapo phone sockets have screw terminals).  It is designed for use with IDC connectors.

Security alarm cable is stranded and designed for use with screw terminals.

Every cable is designed for a different use.
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Reply #10 - May 21st, 2011, 3:45pm
 
The old dial type phones had screw terminals, so why shouldn't I use telephone cable for alarms? Never mind them being about the same in cost, if I have telephone cable & no alarm cable I will use it (unless there is a VERY good reason not to). Just interested & playing devils advocate Smiley
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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #11 - May 21st, 2011, 5:04pm
 
You can drive on flat tyres....
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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2011, 5:45pm
 
I must confess I expected more....
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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #13 - May 22nd, 2011, 9:06am
 
You could wire a door bell in coax or a light fitting in bell wire, it would work, but it's not right.

Why use the wrong cable for the job when a drum of the correct stuff is less than a tenner?
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Re: What's in a cable?
Reply #14 - May 22nd, 2011, 4:13pm
 
And i will now really stir the pot with.....

and it also depends on the manufacturer......... as to the cable differences.............IF ANY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #15 - May 22nd, 2011, 4:55pm
 
Lectrician wrote on May 22nd, 2011, 9:06am:
You could wire a door bell in coax or a light fitting in bell wire, it would work, but it's not right.

Why use the wrong cable for the job when a drum of the correct stuff is less than a tenner?


Never mind the cost, that's not my question.
If you wired anything in bell wire, it would be single strand and connected to a screw terminal surely?
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