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Sep 20th, 2010, 5:44pm
 
I've got a bunch of TV and audio leads to run through a wall with face plates and connectors either side.  The boxes I have have have four punch outs but it would be so much easier if the whole back of the box was removed. Before I get the hacksaw out is there such a thing a a back box without a back?
 
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Re: back box with no back
Reply #1 - Sep 20th, 2010, 7:04pm
 
Kind of - they are known as extenders, extension boxes, extension rings.

They are available in plastic and metal.  Commonly used in commercial installs where you use trunking above suspended ceilings and drop 20mm conduit down the partition walls.  The 25 or even 35mm backbox needs to sit further back to allow for the conduit adaptor to clear the plasterboard, so extenders are used to take up the difference.

Something like this from Greenbrook.  Most wholesalers stock or can get greenbrook stuff, or indeed an equiv.

http://www.greenbrook.co.uk/products.php?nav=176&cat=187&pg=2

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Reply #2 - Sep 20th, 2010, 11:34pm
 
Something like that will be perfect. I'll drop in the local electrical supplies place and see if they have any.

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Reply #3 - Sep 22nd, 2010, 7:42am
 
First place I tried had some.

Next job will be to make up the faceplates. Need to drill a load of 24mm diameter holes to take Neutrik connectors. Last time that was hard work as plates we have are made from some steel that's more like iron than mild.
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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2010, 6:24am
 
Try looking into the q-max sheet metal punches, you drill an 8mm hole and then insert the tool on either side and tighten up forcing the punch through the plate leaving you with a perfect burr free hole.

They come in loads of different sizes.

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Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2010, 8:10am
 
Thanks.  I'll give them a go. One problem is that I need to cut 24mm diameter holes pretty close together so quite worried about the metal between the holes distorting. Might try punching alternate holes and drilling and hand filing the ones in between.
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Reply #6 - Oct 3rd, 2010, 11:08am
 
Those punches worked out ok. This is the resulting faceplate...

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Top row has four HDMI sockets, bottom row has two Speakon sockets, a Network port, an F series/aerial and a 3mm jack for an IR extender.

The HDMI and network connectors are "through" type (eg they have a matching socket on the back) so premade cables can be used both sides.

Hard part was getting everything lined up. Didn't quite manage a perfect job despite printing the layout onto a sticky label. One problem with the punch is they only have small flats on the "nut" part. It tended to pull out of the vice while trying to put max effort into turning the allen key. Had no problems punching holes close together and much easier than drilling and filing out.

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Reply #7 - Oct 3rd, 2010, 11:00pm
 
Nice work. Presumably the plate is to match existing style or is it just a soft material that was suitable for adapting?
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Reply #8 - Oct 5th, 2010, 3:06pm
 
Yes it's to match existing plates from

http://www.jim-lawrence.co.uk/

Unfortunately rather expensive.



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Re: back box with no back
Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2010, 5:23pm
 
CWatters wrote on Oct 5th, 2010, 3:06pm:
Unfortunately rather expensive.


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