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How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Sep 22nd, 2012, 12:23am
 
Hi,

I'm hoping someone will be able to answer my question as it's starting to really bug me.  I have a Catalano Zero + toilet which has a loose seat.  I think it is a top fitting seat based on the internet research I've already done.  I can find lots of details about replacing such a seat, but none that seems specific to the Catalano Zero (I've checked the Catalano website but can't find any information there) and it's particular fixings.

I just can't figure out how to remove the seat/hinges, and I don't want to break the hinges by pulling the seat too much.  I've attached some photos of the seat fixings and hopefully someone can help.

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Fraser

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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #1 - Sep 22nd, 2012, 12:54am
 
Not seen that one before, so does the chrome lift off, maybe a cap.
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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #2 - Sep 22nd, 2012, 7:43am
 
It does look like a chrome cap on the top of the chrome post.  A stanley blade or filling knife may help.
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Reply #3 - Sep 22nd, 2012, 11:50am
 
If by the chrome post you mean the vertical tube sticking up from the chrome disc, then although it looks in the photo like there is a cap on top, it is not  separate piece.  I did try to prise it off the top, but it's definitely just part of the post.

The chrome disc on the left hand side is loose and this is what is causing the seat to wobble.  The chrome fitting on the right hand side is stuck fast to the bowl  and there is no movement in it.  I've tried prising it away from the bowl with a stanley knife, but it doesn't budge - at least I've not tried any real force on it.

I thought that maybe I would be able to pull the toilet seat horizontally and take it off the actual chrome hinge but I don't want to break the seat by forcing it - not sure if this would be an option.

Where the seat attaches to the hinge

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there is a round disc on the other side of the post - I though that maybe I could prise this out, but again it does't seem to budge and I don;t want to break it.
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Reply #4 - Sep 23rd, 2012, 12:22pm
 
I suspect it tightens from below, so you might need to remove the toilet!!!  Undecided
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Reply #5 - Sep 24th, 2012, 6:07pm
 
That's what I was worried might be the answer!  Seems like a pretty poor design.
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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #6 - Sep 25th, 2012, 12:24am
 
Nope the chrome part will come off some how.
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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2012, 2:11pm
 
Ah well, I'll maybe have another look at it to see if anything further can be done.

Thanks for all the responses
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Reply #8 - Dec 3rd, 2012, 11:20pm
 
Hello,
i haveexactly the same loo seat and searching web as would like to replace it and unsure how to get it off.

Was wondering if you ever found a solution to removing the seat.

Any help granted.

I am convinced it has to be removed by loosening the chrome disc but it will not budge.

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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #9 - Dec 4th, 2012, 12:37am
 
Try pushing the rod in where it comes through the post, they may be sprung loaded.
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Reply #10 - Apr 24th, 2013, 12:37am
 
I have exactly the same dilemma with exactly the same product.  Did any of these suggestions work or was any other solution found?
thanks in anticipation!
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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #11 - Apr 24th, 2013, 12:47am
 
I would try all the suggestions and see how it goes, I can't see it can be that difficult  Wink

I would be amazed if you have the same in Australia though.
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Reply #12 - Apr 25th, 2013, 6:22am
 
Thank you for your prompt response.
Yes, believe it or not it is exactly the same product and model, and exactly the same problem (although down here in Australia the water swirls the other way round of course).
I have tried all the suggestions made with no success. There is no access at all from below, the chrome pegs are one piece, and there is no spring loading.
I agree it should not be all that difficult, but it seems to be!  There is nothing on the Catalano website or their online technical sheets of assistance.
I will keep enquiring and post anything I come up with.
Thanks again
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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #13 - Apr 25th, 2013, 11:20am
 
Can you post a few clearer pics, and the model of the seat if possible.

Perhaps the seat isn't meant for a concealed fixing  Huh
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Reply #14 - Apr 26th, 2013, 2:07pm
 
Delighted to report that I have figured it out. (The model is exactly as described and depicted in the very first post above - Catalano Zero+)


The tightening mechanism is by way of internal butterfly nut so there is no access to it except by lifting and turning each vertical silver peg clockwise.
This mechanism is explained and demonstrated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3siBoPGPPg
"How to change a GSI top fixing toilet seat with butterfly clip"



Of course, to be able to turn the vertical silver peg you first need to disengage the horizontal silver peg, at the same time detaching the toilet seat and lid. How you get each horizontal peg out is not at all obvious.  It is not a capped grub screw (as suggested in the video), but just a silver cylinder which is held in place by a rubber ring sunk into its body about half way along. Unfortunately the ends of the horizontal pegs when installed are pretty well flush with the face of the vertical pegs, but with a bit of sideways manipulation you can get a couple of millimetres poking out.  That should be just enough to prise out the rest of the horizontal peg, first with a small screwdriver then using finger and thumb.  Once the horizontal pegs are out and the  seat and lid are set to one side, just lift each vertical peg in turn, tightening them clockwise as shown in the video.  Putting the small screwdriver through the horizontal hole gives enough leverage for good tightening (but don't overdo it and crack the unit).  Make sure the horizontal holes are lined up, then replace the seat and lid by pushing the horizontal pegs back through the holes into the seat and lid.

I hope this is clear.  Let me know if it isn't.

Thanks for the interest shown in this problem.
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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #15 - Apr 26th, 2013, 4:23pm
 
Thanks for posting this, it certainly isn't obvious how these things are tightened up.
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Re: How do I tighten a loose top-fixing toilet seat?
Reply #16 - Apr 26th, 2013, 11:29pm
 
Perfectly clear Markcb.

It was the peg bit that gave it away.

Is there anyway you can actually push the pegs out by holding the seat in different positions.

Pssssst, we had a toilets seat delivered and there was 32 bits of plastic, all needed.  Grin
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