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new kitchen wiring
Mar 28th, 2005, 10:06am
 
am completly gutting my kitchen which will involve running a new ring main for sockets and appliances and was wondering what prep work on the electrical side I can undertake (if any) bearing in mind current regs.

i.e. is it ok for me to chase walls / cut in socket boxes etc in readiness for the electrician.

basically what am i allowed to do?

a seperate question i have is at what minimum distance above worktops do sockets need to be.

cheers

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Re: new kitchen wiring
Reply #1 - Mar 28th, 2005, 10:39am
 
Hi Harry,
you can do all the grunt work you like - your electrician will thank you for it if you do it properly. You can even run in the cable so long as you leave it accessible for inspection - most sparks will happily connect and test stuff they can see, but if I were in your shoes I'd call in a couple of sparks for advice on what you want to do before you start.

Height above worktops? No regulations as such, but you need to consider accessibility - too low and the flex gets bent when you connect. Too high and you might find you can't fit the wall units! Most fit them at 150-200mm from top of worktop to bottom of socket, but the size of your splashback tiles might have an influence too. More important (although still not regulated) is the distance of sockets from the sink/draining board. They should be at least 300mm away, measured horizontally - this is a recommendation of both the IEE and NICEIC.
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Re: new kitchen wiring
Reply #2 - Mar 28th, 2005, 6:03pm
 
I believe you _can_ do all the wiring yourself under part P, just as long as you notify Building Control/

I've yet to work out what the procedure is but one web site suggests the fee is around £199 (based on floor area of all things).

What I don't know is... Will Building Control require third party testing? In which case getting an electrician in to do the whole job might be cheaper in some cases.

If anyone knows of a web site that explains what a DIYer must do if they choose the Building Control route please let us know.
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Re: new kitchen wiring
Reply #3 - Mar 28th, 2005, 6:17pm
 
Re the height - 1.2m to the top of the socket is the norm at the moment, they match your light switches aswell then if you are fitting these to the required height Wink

1.2m form the floor obviously - not the counter top Grin
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Re: new kitchen wiring
Reply #4 - Mar 28th, 2005, 6:56pm
 
Looks like I have my answer for DIYers.  If you want to do "notifiable work" that now comes under Part P yourself (Example: install low voltage downlights in your living room or put a new ring main in your kitchen)  then according to one council web site it will cost £200....

http://www.stockton.gov.uk/citizenservices/buildingregulations/build_ctrl/partp/...

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If you use an electrician or contractor who is not a member of the 'Competent Person Scheme' the Local Authority is required to engage the services of a 'Competent Person' to inspect and certify that the electrical installation is in accordance with BS7671.  A fee of £170.22 plus VAT (£200.00) is payable to the Local Authority to inspect and certify electrical installations.
N.B.  You must notify the Local Authority at the first fix electrical stage, failure to do so will require work to be opened up later to ascertain compliance.
In addition to this work not in accordance with Building Regulations and/or failure to give the correct notices to the Local Authority; are contraventions of the regulations and may make you liable for prosecution and upon summary conviction you may be liable to maximum fines of £5000 per offence; and £50 for every day thereafter each default continues.

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Re: new kitchen wiring
Reply #5 - Mar 28th, 2005, 7:40pm
 
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I believe you _can_ do all the wiring yourself under part P, just as long as you notify Building Control

You need to be carefull that the work will comply to part-p requirements though Cwatters, if it does not they will not approve the work
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Re: new kitchen wiring
Reply #6 - Mar 28th, 2005, 10:32pm
 
thnx for all the advice.....very helpful Wink
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Re: new kitchen wiring
Reply #7 - Apr 3rd, 2005, 4:09pm
 
[quote author=L.Spark  link=1112000787/0#5 date=1112035251]
You need to be carefull that the work will comply to part-p requirements though Cwatters, if it does not they will not approve the work [/quote]

Yes sorry I forgot to mention that.

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