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Marley plastics....
Aug 16th, 2005, 1:36am
 
I am replacing a bathroom suite which has a soil stack pipe dia. of 3". (..its been mentioned that rainwater pipe was used!?)
To keep things simple I have managed to get Marley fittings to do the job which are slightly larger dia.
How can I fit the larger dia. Marley pipe to the older smaller pipe (..about 3mm) ..this only needs to be connected at the ground level soil stack.
I also have a Wickes Soil Vent valve unit for use internally..fits on top of the soil stack ( which runs up to through the loft and exits onto the roof.)
Because of the pipe dia. probs. I assume I can use this "new" soil venting unit which fits using an adapter. ???

Any help appreciated...thanks!
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Reply #1 - Aug 16th, 2005, 7:09am
 
What make is the existing pipe and fittings.
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Reply #2 - Aug 16th, 2005, 7:51am
 
Are you sure that it's not just the vent pipe that is 3"?

This was done quite often a few years ago on the vent pipe only as it was an acceptable minimum size.
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Reply #3 - Aug 16th, 2005, 9:00pm
 
Could you give exact Outside Diameter (OD) measurements in mm for each type of pipe involved? I.e. 110 mm (4"), 82mm (3"), 68 mm (2.5" rainwater), etc.?
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Reply #4 - Aug 16th, 2005, 11:43pm
 
I will measure asap...the fittings are/were Osma.
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Reply #5 - Aug 17th, 2005, 7:10am
 
[quote author=wotamess  link=1124152592/0#4 date=1124232201]I will measure asap...the fittings are/were Osma. [/quote]

Then you should be using Osma or polypipe which will fit.

Go to your nearest Plumbcentre
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Reply #6 - Aug 17th, 2005, 9:29am
 
Thanks for the advice scruff....but Plumbcentre do not stock Osma now!
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Reply #7 - Aug 17th, 2005, 1:18pm
 
Grahams stock Osma

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Reply #8 - Aug 17th, 2005, 5:36pm
 
[quote author=wotamess  link=1124152592/0#6 date=1124267362]Thanks for the advice scruff....but Plumbcentre do not stock Osma now! [/quote]


Plumbcentre stock polypipe which is made by osma.
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Reply #9 - Aug 17th, 2005, 6:06pm
 
O/ds are Osma pipe into soil at ground level = 75mm and the Marley replacement pipe dia. 82mm.
So I need to adapt the 82mm down to fit into the 75mm...if you understand what I mean!...otherwise it means digging up and replacing the soil fitting which I don't think I'm capable of!
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Reply #10 - Aug 17th, 2005, 9:35pm
 
75mm OD is definitely non-standard for soil pipework. Is this the OD of pipe or fitting? If fitting, it might be a socket for 68mm rainwater pipe. Can you check this?

If it really is soil pipework, you could try adapting to it with one of these http://www.flexseal.co.uk/products/fern-straight.htm
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Reply #11 - Aug 17th, 2005, 10:54pm
 
Thanks for that chrishutt..yes... 75mm is the o/d of the soil pipe ...therefore the 82mm Marley dia. poses a problem  ???
..it will slip over the 75mm dia. but then the problem will be a good enough seal.
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Reply #12 - Aug 17th, 2005, 11:59pm
 
What about the link I gave you? No good?

I'm still curious about where this 75mm OD Osma soil pipe came from. Have you asked Osma (Wavin Plastics) about it? If they can supply a socket, the socket might just have an OD of 82mm! Then you could connect using standard soil fittings.
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Reply #13 - Aug 18th, 2005, 12:15am
 
The link showed  adjustable collars, but I don't think they would work in this situation ie. big dia. to small dia...and also the 3" soil pipe is too close to the house wall!
I am going  to a branch of Grahams in the morning...maybe they will have a fitting to suit...will report back...thanks once again.
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Reply #14 - Aug 18th, 2005, 12:17am
 
Osma still sell 3" plastic pipe and fittings, I've bought it in the past. It's not the sort of thing that can be picked up at your local Plumb Center but it is still made.

The 3" is equivalent to your 75mm measurement.
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Reply #15 - Aug 18th, 2005, 11:28pm
 
I've just bought a load of 3" Osma pipe and fittings, off the shelf at Builder Center.  All grey above ground stuff.

Using it for draining a large flat roof (6 roof outlets).
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Re: Marley plastics....
Reply #16 - Aug 18th, 2005, 11:54pm
 
I think you guys must be referring to the normal 3" soil pipework which has an outside diameter of 82mm. The poster needs something to match soil pipe with an OD of 75mm. If you have something with 75mm OD please give details.

By the way, Wotamess, do you realise that you can't discharge a  normal WC into 3" (82mm OD) soil pipework? The pipe must not be smaller than outlet of WC (normally 100mm). So I think you may have to dig down to drain connection anyway.
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Reply #17 - Sep 21st, 2005, 1:51pm
 
Undecided..update on how I have managed to join the Marley 82mm to the original 75mm Osma..
I have gone with the assumption that because it was ok to use the Osma for the soilstack originally, it must be ok to utilise it now only with a larger section.

Can anyone explain how to post photos...I have clicked the insert image icon but not very helpful...
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Reply #18 - Sep 21st, 2005, 3:43pm
 
Picture posting information here

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Reply #19 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:22pm
 
Thanks for that btk!...but the photo has been placed in my profile box....not what I wanted ie. to show pics of the job in hand in this box!
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Reply #20 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:25pm
 
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Reply #21 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:30pm
 
Yikes!

I need a 52" Plasma screen to see all that  Grin



Oi!  Where's it gone  Grin
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Reply #22 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:31pm
 
Help!...just posted a photo, but its taken up the whole post box
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Reply #23 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:34pm
 
CheesyNice one jerryd...actually I'm thinking about a plasma...soon as I've finished this bathroom!!
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Reply #24 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:34pm
 
Try this!

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Reply #25 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:35pm
 
btw, my piccy is 600 pixels wide, yours was 1600!

Size IS important (no matter what she says  Wink)
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Reply #26 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:43pm
 
Photo 2

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Reply #28 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:48pm
 
Photo 3 again

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Reply #29 - Sep 21st, 2005, 7:51pm
 
..and finally..

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Reply #30 - Sep 21st, 2005, 9:28pm
 
Interesting use of silicon grease  Undecided

What have you actually used to seal the joint with
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Reply #31 - Sep 21st, 2005, 10:13pm
 
..sorry that should have read "sealant" not grease..I assume thats OK?
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Reply #32 - Sep 21st, 2005, 10:46pm
 
[quote author=wotamess  link=1124152592/30#31 date=1127337211]..sorry that should have read "sealant" not grease..I assume thats OK? [/quote]

No it won't last, solvent weld or gap cement is what you should have used.



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Reply #33 - Sep 22nd, 2005, 9:27am
 
..thanks thescruff..can you mention what gap cement is available...nothing comes up on Google..
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Reply #34 - Oct 1st, 2005, 7:01pm
 
Really think you ought to make the soil pipe 4", for all the running about you've been doing, you could have dug it up by now
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Reply #35 - Oct 2nd, 2005, 1:18am
 
Thanks for your two pennorth greg..might have had a go if the gas supply pipe was a little further away from the soil stack...distance being about 8 inches (or 203mm) ...didn't fancy disturbing that!
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