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Aug 25th, 2005, 9:27pm
 
Can someone help me please I have had my baxi combi boiler installed 3 years now and all of a sudden the bar pressure keeps rising and releasing out of the outlet vale can anyone tell me why this is happening and what I can do to stop this happening all the time as it never happened before?
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #1 - Aug 25th, 2005, 10:19pm
 
Assuming the filler loop is disconnected, then the expansion vessel has lost it's charge or duff.
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #2 - Aug 25th, 2005, 10:26pm
 
the filler loop is connected
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #3 - Aug 25th, 2005, 10:41pm
 
Disconnect it then and check if it's letting by
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #4 - Aug 25th, 2005, 10:45pm
 
what do you mean by letting by? sorry to sound thick and all that
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #5 - Aug 25th, 2005, 10:53pm
 
He means allowing water to pass through. If you disconnect the flexible hose bit, no water should emerge other than the water already present in hose.

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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #6 - Aug 25th, 2005, 10:55pm
 
thanx I will try that and get back to you tomorrow with the result will you be here if I need further help what happens if the expansion vessel has lost its charge?
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #7 - Aug 25th, 2005, 11:40pm
 
if its not the filling loop, check the expansion vessel, they are usually re-charged with a hand pump, like the one you blow up bike tyres with.


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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #8 - Aug 25th, 2005, 11:57pm
 
[quote author=tubbies74  link=1125001677/0#6 date=1125006937]thanx I will try that and get back to you tomorrow with the result will you be here if I need further help what happens if the expansion vessel has lost its charge? [/quote]

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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #9 - Sep 1st, 2005, 8:06pm
 
I have removed filler loop and there is no water other than that which was in the tube so it is letting by, where do I find the expansion vessel ? when I put the heating on the dial goes up two bar, is this dangerous ? I have been told its not and that the pressure will be released via the valve and overflow
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #10 - Sep 1st, 2005, 8:24pm
 
[quote author=tubbies74  link=1125001677/0#9 date=1125601613]I have removed filler loop and there is no water other than that which was in the tube so it is letting by, where do I find the expansion vessel ? when I put the heating on the dial goes up two bar, is this dangerous ? I have been told its not and that the pressure will be released via the valve and overflow [/quote]

It's only dangerous to the heating system and will rot the rads out if you continue to introduce fresh water.

The expansion vessel will be shown on the manufacturers installation book.

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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #11 - Sep 1st, 2005, 8:45pm
 
yes please also how do I pump it up if thats what is needed
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #12 - Sep 19th, 2005, 5:33pm
 
still building pressure can anyone help done the filla loop thing still no joy????
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #13 - Sep 19th, 2005, 11:12pm
 
If the system pressure is continuously increasing, there must be mains pressure water entering. If it's not via the filling loop, it might be via a leak in the secondary heat exchanger.
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #14 - Sep 20th, 2005, 8:11am
 
Can you explain at bit more and how I rectify this thanks for your help
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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #15 - Sep 20th, 2005, 9:39am
 
If you are sure it's NOT the expansion vessel or filler then...

I've just been through a similar problem. In our case the pressure of the mains coming into the house increased to 5 bar and that caused the 3 bar relief valve on the boiler input to open. The first we knew about it was a £700 water bill.

To confirm the problem add a pressure guage to the mains input to the house.

The solution in our case was to fit an adjustable (1-4 bar) pressure regulator just before the boiler relief valve. Set it to say 2.75 bar. It helps if you add a second pressure gauge after the regulator so that you can adjust it accuratly.

This cured the problem for us but introduced a minor irritation... The pressure regulator isn't a very good regulator. Sure it always stops the pressure exceeding the set value BUT it also reduces the flow rate when the taps are on. With the hot taps off the pressure is the set value (eg 2.75 bar) but as soon as you open a tap it falls to 0.75 bar. The new regulator is clearly the problem because we didn't have this problem before fitting it. I've tried two different makes with little real improvement.

PS Any flow through the filler will increase the pressure. Be really sure that it's not allowing drips through. Let the filler pipe drain into a bucket overnight and see if it's still dripping the following day.



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Re: Baxi Boiler 105e
Reply #16 - Sep 20th, 2005, 10:50am
 
I've thought of another possible cause..

It could be a leak between the primary and secondary inside the boiler itself. In effect a hole between the two parts acting like another filler. Not sure how to diagnose this.
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