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Partition wall problem
Oct 28th, 2007, 7:20pm
 
Hello, I am altering my bathroom and want to install a shower. I need to run the hot and cold water pipes through a stud wall. The issue I have is that the timber is only 36mm wide in the stud wall. I read you can only remove 40% of the stud width according to regulations. This means I can not notch out these timbers as I would need to take more than 40% out of the width.
I can not replace the stud timber as the wall seperates the bathroom and a bedroom and it would mean making a mess of the bedroom as well as the bathroom. I wondered if I can screw additional timber onto the original studs to make the original studs thicker and just leave a gap for the pipes to run through when I put the additional timber on? I thought I could just add 18mm or 20mm wood to the original and this would be deep enough to pass the pipes through. I could then screw new auqaboard / plasterboard through the additional timber into the original studwork. Does this sound like it will be ok? Will it be strong enough? Does anyone have any better ideas how I could solve the problem?
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Re: Partition wall problem
Reply #1 - Oct 29th, 2007, 7:14am
 
assuming its cls [or similar at 63x38]
if the regulation is 40% and its a notch rather than a hole it can be in any direction as long as 60% remains

you can double up on the studs move the studs even fronting with 12 or 18mm ply will restore most off the lost strength assuming the ply extends to at least 1 full stud each side and you have at least 30% left on the stud

you can also use noggins between the studs to give extra strength
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Reply #2 - Oct 29th, 2007, 9:59am
 
Hello, I have found I have a bigger problem. The partition is not just a normal stud wall. It seems to be like a prefabricated stud wall that has plasterboard for each side and a cardboard matrix inside gluing the 2 plasterboard walls together. There are no studs to attatch to apart from at the ends of the walls there is the frame and then it looks like this prefabricated wall is just slotted into the frame. Therefore there are no studs to widen!!! I need to have a rethink on how to progress as I can't bury the pipes in this wall unless I cut a channel through the plasterboard and the internal cardoard matrix. I assume this would weaken it. Anybody had this issue before?
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Re: Partition wall problem
Reply #3 - Oct 29th, 2007, 10:07am
 
Perhaps add a false wall? Fit vertical or horizontal battens a bit bigger than the pipe diameter. Install pipes, cover with plasterboard or more likely hardibacker board or similar waterproof board.
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Reply #4 - Oct 29th, 2007, 12:37pm
 
Hello, I did think about a false wall but I only have 800mm depth for the shower tray at the moment and wanted to fit an 800mm shower. I know you can get 760mm showers but I would not fit in it!!!! Thanks for the reply though.
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Reply #5 - Oct 30th, 2007, 7:46pm
 
I got a reply about this issue in the plumbing forum. People have advised to cut a channel in the partition wall and then just fill it with plaster or expanding foam when the pipes have been sunk into the wall. Thanks for all your help.
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