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JohnD
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screed floor - estimating quantities
Aug 2nd, 2005, 12:25am
 
It occurs to me that rather than go back to my schoolboy maths (I failed the O level) someone might quickly and easily be able to work out the quantities of sand and cement I need for the screed floor I am about to lay.

The room is 11' by 5' 6" by 3 1/2 " deep.  Any takers?

I make that about 335  by 168 by 8.89 cm, for those who think in metric.  Don't rely on the conversion however - as I say, I failed maths!

Thanks - and thanks to Jerry for his help so far.

John D
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Dewy
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Re: screed floor - estimating quantities
Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2005, 5:27pm
 
Dont quote me on it as the only mortar or concrete I have made had been for home use but I always ignored the volume of the cement as it is used to bond the aggregate (sand and gravel) together so I always worked on the volume of agregate.
Centimetres are only used in schools because they are the closest to an inch on rulers.
The SI (system international) measures are millimetre, metre and kilometre.
So your figures should be 3.35m, 1.68m & .889m (.9 is better)
Multiply the three together to get 5.065 cubic metres.
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Re: screed floor - estimating quantities
Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2005, 6:11pm
 
Don't forget that a cubic metre of sand will not quite make a cubic metre of screed due to 'bulking' of sand when it is damp.

You may need as much as 5.5 - 6 cu/m of sharp sand to get 5 cu/m of screed.


Now the cement.  A 25kg bag of cement will produce 0.06 cu/m of screed at 4:1 mix so for 5 cu/m you will need 83 bags.

Good luck!

btw, for volumes like this we always get Tilcon Ready mix screed.  Screed is difficult and slow to mix in a conventional mixer.  Ready mix screed has a retarder in it so you have all day to lay it.  If you do decide to get Readymix screed you will need 5 cu/m as the bulking has been taken into account by the batching plant.
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Re: screed floor - estimating quantities
Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2005, 6:23pm
 
JOHN STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!


You need 0.5 cubic metres not 5 cubic metres

Hope you haven't order it for tomorrow Shocked

I hate metric so easy to get it wrong.
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Reply #4 - Aug 2nd, 2005, 6:32pm
 
Bloody 'ell Dewy.  What a cock up  Grin

lol

Well spotted woody!  Kiss

(btw, it's always best to over-order slightly................  Tongue)
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Reply #5 - Aug 2nd, 2005, 8:06pm
 
OOPS I had the decimal point on the .889 one place out.
It should have been .09m Roll Eyes
Geeze. I thought it sounded a lot.  Shocked Grin

I hate metric as well.
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Reply #6 - Aug 3rd, 2005, 12:26am
 
Better to look at it than look for it! Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #7 - Aug 3rd, 2005, 11:04am
 
Only 83 bags?  Thought it would have been more......

Thanks to all who responded!!! Order - just of ten bags - made - and a ton of sand.  We'll see how close this enables me to get!!!!

Thanks

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Reply #8 - Aug 3rd, 2005, 7:37pm
 
If there's any left over I've got Dewy's address  Grin

btw, just divide everything I said by 10  Embarrassed

Erm.... 8.3 bags, ok get 10 then  Grin

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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2005, 8:23pm
 
[quote author=JerryD  link=1122938731/0#8 date=1123094234]If there's any left over I've got Dewy's address  Grin Grin

lol [/quote]
I think I had better move to a new address.  Grin
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Reply #10 - Aug 5th, 2005, 1:02am
 
Seven sacks of cement did it - and there was some sand left over too - the floor sloped more than I realised! Result was not absolutely perfect but quite good enough!

Thanks to all who gave advice.

JohnD
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Reply #11 - Aug 5th, 2005, 1:27am
 
Just as well woodsmith noticed my 'slight' mistake or you would have bought 70 sacks of cement John. lmao
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