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oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Oct 20th, 2006, 5:05pm
 
Huh Huh Huh recently whilst setting up my dewalt 742 flip saw i was having no end of trouble getting the blade dead square [and to stay there]

checked the metalwork square on a strait edge [draw a line flip it over ]lines up perfectly Grin Grin

rips a bit off wood half length flipsover rip the other half
where the rips meet a tiny mismatch in surface as in top off one half a few thow backand the bottom of the other a few thow back now not a lot but doubled at the join

ok no probs get the square out check alignment no visible light between blade and square Huh Huh


mmmmmmmmm Shocked  ok wipe all surfaces of the saw the blade and square  check square for accuracy on strait edge  ---perfect Grin

check on blade perfect  Grin Grin Grin Grin

check cut wood still wrong Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided


guess what was wrong  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2006, 5:57pm
 
Your bit of wood wasn't square to start with? blade loose on the arbor? so long since I last used mine I can't think of anything else.

Should get one of theseto set yout blade by, mine arrived today Smiley

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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #2 - Oct 20th, 2006, 7:10pm
 
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Your bit of wood wasn't square to start with? blade loose on the arbor? so long since I last used mine I can't think of anything else.

Should get one of theseto set yout blade by, mine arrived today Smiley

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that looks realy good jase i assume it was about £50

the wood was fine blade running true Roll Eyes Wink

look for bizzare impossible to think off answers  Grin Cool Cool
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2006, 7:14pm
 
not fully locking off either bevel or detents! ??
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Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2006, 7:17pm
 
everything properly locked in position Roll Eyes

its realy bizzar more unusual than that wolf Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #5 - Oct 20th, 2006, 7:32pm
 
the back fence was a tad loose(Makita inherant problem!!) or the actual turn table was not flat/flush!!!!
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Reply #6 - Oct 20th, 2006, 7:55pm
 
guide wasnt locked off at the back
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #7 - Oct 20th, 2006, 8:15pm
 
funny enough i thought the table may have a dip/dent

so i tried a strait edge across the front no probs:Smiley Roll Eyes

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ok a clue i had the same problem on the dw712 Wink

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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #8 - Oct 20th, 2006, 8:24pm
 
Your square wasn't square?
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #9 - Oct 20th, 2006, 8:47pm
 
well yes and no  Grin Grin Grin Grin
well done that man

my son had dropped the square it was still square but had a dented corner he tried rubbing it with emmery paper but no good so he gave it a couple of seconds on the belt sander Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed


so as i  checked the external [now sanded edge ]to set up it was fine but wrong and when i try the internal they aint square Grin Grin
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Reply #10 - Oct 20th, 2006, 9:10pm
 
and just how long on the belt sander were you , with your son!!!! Grin
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #11 - Oct 20th, 2006, 9:21pm
 
TIMBA-WOLF wrote on Oct 20th, 2006, 9:10pm:
and just how long on the belt sander were you , with your son!!!! Grin


long enough to make me a few thow out Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Wink
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Reply #12 - Oct 21st, 2006, 7:45am
 
big_all wrote on Oct 20th, 2006, 7:10pm:
that looks realy good jase i assume it was about £50




$39.99 inc postage to UK so thats just between £20-25 but I was unlucky and got clobbered for £3.30 import duty and £4.00 for the post ofice to collect the duty.

Expect you are going to be spending the day draw filing the square back to 90 degrees Wink

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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2006, 7:57am
 
i don't know if you can still obtain them from anywhere but i was given an engineers plate square many many years ago, came in a box for protection (not that it needs it)   its a small 6" bladed engineers square mounted on a ground plate(with 2 corners at 90 deg checked and marked) and  with a 1½ upstand to one side so that it can measure/set up a plate/blade and fence all in one go!  weighs in at about 2-3lb and is nice and accurate... over the time i've had a few bods try and "borrow" it!     Angry... but it does not leave the workshop!

saves belt sanding kids!!!!!

apparently the engineer that set up my old workshop toys now relys on a digital/laser jobbie!!! Angry Sad Sad Sad
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Reply #14 - Oct 21st, 2006, 8:28am
 
guy i know is setting up a new workshop

the sheet saw bevel angle is set by an electric motor in .1 degree increments

one thing has just come to mind, the .1 increments means you cant set 1/4 or 1/3 degree settings
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big_all wrote on Oct 20th, 2006, 7:10pm:
that looks realy good jase i assume it was about £50




$39.99 inc postage to UK so thats just between £20-25 but I was unlucky and got clobbered for £3.30 import duty and £4.00 for the post ofice to collect the duty.

Expect you are going to be spending the day draw filing the square back to 90 degrees Wink

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thats not a lot of money if its accurate  i always recon call the dollars £s to allow for other charges Grin

to be honest i think i will invest in a complete set of metalwork and try squares as i am getting fag paper differences between half the squares not a lot i know but when your clamping up furniture or frames it can knock them out by a couple of mm over the diagonals
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TIMBA-WOLF wrote on Oct 21st, 2006, 7:57am:
i don't know if you can still obtain them from anywhere but i was given an engineers plate square many many years ago, came in a box for protection (not that it needs it)   its a small 6" bladed engineers square mounted on a ground plate(with 2 corners at 90 deg checked and marked) and  with a 1½ upstand to one side so that it can measure/set up a plate/blade and fence all in one go!  weighs in at about 2-3lb and is nice and accurate... over the time i've had a few bods try and "borrow" it!     Angry... but it does not leave the workshop!

saves belt sanding kids!!!!!


apparently the engineer that set up my old workshop toys now relys on a digital/laser jobbie!!! Angry Sad Sad Sad


thats sort of what i want to do keep all the accurate stuff under lock and key  and only use it when high accuracy is required
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #17 - Oct 21st, 2006, 10:26am
 
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guy i know is setting up a new workshop

the sheet saw bevel angle is set by an electric motor in .1 degree increments

one thing has just come to mind, the .1 increments means you cant set 1/4 or 1/3 degree settings


i wonder if theres a manual fine adjustment with perhaps a central neutral "0" position and set clicks for 1/32"  !!!!
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Reply #18 - Oct 21st, 2006, 12:37pm
 
hes probably spent more money on the one tool than i have on all mine

his is a "cheap" one. Aparantly. The scribing blade has to be raised manually
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thats sort of what i want to do keep all the accurate stuff under lock and key  and only use it when high accuracy is required


would it not be cheaper and quicker to keep your son under lock and key!!!.......LOL Grin

i know it would one of my grandsons! Shocked
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #20 - Oct 21st, 2006, 3:06pm
 
dont want to discourage him wolf as he is 15 isnt realy all that interested in wood work  Embarrassed

and whilst i realy appreciate things staying the same as i left them Cool

it would make me extremly happy and proud if he took up the tools not nesseseraly as a trade but to be competent to use them on his own for his use even as a hobby or to help me on tasks where 2 heads are worth more than the sum total off the parts Grin
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Reply #21 - Oct 21st, 2006, 3:13pm
 
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hes probably spent more money on the one tool than i have on all mine

his is a "cheap" one. Aparantly. The scribing blade has to be raised manually



as you know the more "gadgets "the more they cost Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Wink
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Reply #22 - Oct 21st, 2006, 4:33pm
 
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His is a "cheap" one. Apparently. The scribing blade has to be raised manually

Having used a panel saw with a digital read-out for more than 5 years (mine's the not so cheap one with the power rise and fall on the scorer and the main blade) for those relatively rare occasions when you need to do a mitre cut 0.1 degrees happens to be a tad more accurate than the scale on the front of an ordinary tilt-arbor sawbench or chop saw. When you think about it most mitre cuts are generally either in full or 0.5 degree amounts, certainly almost any frame with 3 to 12 sides works out that way with the exception of 7 and 11 siders (really useful, those). But in any case I've never been asked to make a frame with more than 8 sides.....

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Reply #23 - Oct 21st, 2006, 10:20pm
 
totally agree, .1 of a degree is pointless

being a carpenter 1mm is good enough  Smiley
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Re: oooooohhhhhh bu66er guess what was wrong
Reply #24 - Oct 22nd, 2006, 1:09am
 
Grin...being a Joiner a 1/64th of an INCH is even better!!!!!  Grin

must not get too sloppy must we!!! LOL! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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glad i dont know what a 64th is  Grin id probably frighten myself  Roll Eyes
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