[quote author=get_it_done  link=1107199294/15#16 date=1107304194]However, it is no longer possible to issue an EIC unless you are a member of a Competent Person scheme [/quote]
Of course you can.

Read what an EIC says, and tell me where the bit about being a member of a Competent Person scheme is...

Those schemes, and the concept of self-certifying are nothing to do with the wiring regs, EICs, MWCs etc etc, they are entirely to do with certifying compliance with Part P of the Building Regulations - something completely different.

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Those schemes, and the concept of self-certifying are nothing to do with the wiring regs, EICs, MWCs etc etc, they are entirely to do with certifying compliance with Part P of the Building Regulations - something completely different. [/quote]

Bas are you suggesting that there is some other way of certifying complience with Part P. If so, I would be interested to hear of this.

Hi,
In coming June I'll finish the 2360 part 2, according to c&G and the college I'll not need to do 2381 (16th eddition), it comes with this course.  The other point that I would like to make is that when I'm driving my car I follow the rulles, this is not because of the idiots in the government but because I think that this is important and I understand the risque to me and/or others if I don't, I have the same approach to my qualifications I could, may be, skip 2391, by finding a lot of convincing reasons, but instaed I already registered to do the  2391, which will start in April and this is not because of the ODPM, but because I want to know and understand... dealing with other people's safety is quiet a big responsibility...
Albert

[quote author=akuk  link=1107199294/15#22 date=1112201440]Hi,
In coming June I'll finish the 2360 part 2 [/quote]
Well done

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I'm sorry, but this is just not true, I am concerned if C&G have said this. You work to 16th eddition regulations, but you have not done the course. C&G2381 is a course that's JUST about the regulation's, you would cover the whole book, and this builds on what you have already learnt and used.

Some firms will not take you on unless you have C&G2381, regardless of what you may or my not have already, if you want to cover you're self and have something extra for the CV I would strongly reccomend doing it, however there's no hurry, if where you work or plan to work doesnt require it then don't do it, if they require it later they should pay for the course.

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I agree, and I like you're responsible attitude, if you enjoy the subject then 2391 should be good fun, most of the testing you will or should have covered in 236PT2, if you havent yet, you may before the end.

Question: are you taking the practical element of part2, or just the theory side?, practical is optional, but you would finish long before july if just taking theory.

[quote author=L.Spark  link=1107199294/15#24 date=1112208938]
I thing you should check it again, I'm an emgineer in general mechanics, I decided to change direction and for the last 3 years I am following the 2360 course P1 and P2, this courses are based on 16th edition, the oldest version I know about is the blue book.  I know that it is important so I asked the C&G, NIC and in college, and the reply was that after the end of part 2 we will not have to do 2381, check it and if you know something different I would like to know [/quote]
The problem lies in the wording, they say you don't have to......you don't, but you may go later to a company and find they insist on it, telling them you don't need to do it won't go very far, as I said before, it's certainly nothing to be hasty about, and you'd be advised to leave it until someone asks for it as they may fund it if they require it

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Sure, when we went trough part-2, the college centre gave us the option of doing part-2 practical, or just doing the theory, and I was more than looking forward to doing the practical so went ahead, having said that the joint industry board make a requirement to have completed practical elements of the course and therefore it's certainly worth doing.

It may be that they don't give you the option and you just do both, we were given the choice, doing just the theory side and exam would mean you finish a few months before the course end date, something like march I think..

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The best person to speak to if you want to find out more would be the lecturer, as they handle all the course material afterall

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this is strictly part-2, part-1 is a combination of both, I have a feeling you may have done the practical as standard, how many certificate's do you have in total - just for part-2?

btw, apologies about you're post, clicked wrong button  

spot on

[quote author=L.Spark  link=1107199294/15#26 date=1112312772]
this is strictly part-2, part-1 is a combination of both, I have a feeling you may have done the practical as standard, how many certificate's do you have in total - just for part-2?

btw, apologies about you're post, clicked wrong button [/quote]
I will ask of course, the course consists of 2 subjects: Electrical installation and Science, the first one seems to me like the more practical side of the course, it includs all the subjects that relate to circuit/circuits installaton, CU selection (includind the MCBs, RCDs, main switch etc.), cable calculation, BS7671- definitions, findin information, using tables, diversity etc. The other part is all the magnetism subject, motors , generators, lighting (Luminous intensity etc.), Star and Delta supply etc.  We have to sit 2 tests one for each subject, and each one of them will provide a certificate (the exams are in mid. June). To answer your question is that I will have 2 certificats for part 2.
I detailed all the above so you wiil see what we are doing in the course and tell me what do you think; is it a combined course?

[quote author=L.Spark  link=1107199294/30#31 date=1112621864]Hello AKUK

Thanks for the reply, it would seem you are doing both as you are doing both exams, there are infact 4 certificates (see below), the main thing is that you do the practical exercises..

• Electrical Science & Principles

• Electrical Installation

• Assignments & Practical exercises

• End Certificate, listing all that you passed

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yes it sounds right, I did not mention the 3 assignments that wil provide a certificate, (in principal it is exactly as part one; 1 cert for asignments, 1 cert for electronics and for Elec instal and one for passing the course.
So it seems that I am doing the right thing...