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Feb 23rd, 2005, 7:01pm
 
Sorry if this is in the wrong section but I asked my plumber and he told me to ask an electrician...

My central heating controller works fine but is old and yellow and looks terrible in my new kitchen - it's a Honeywell thing with an LCD display and was fitted in 1985 - it doesn't have a built-in thermostat.

From reading the Screwfix catalogue, I'm under the impression that modern timers use a standard six-wire connection to the boiler. Is my 1985-vintage timer likely to be compatible with this?

In short - can I easily replace my timer?

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Reply #1 - Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:10pm
 
Terminals may be numbered differntly, but yes.

You have a Live and a Neutral, a CH on, a HW on and possibly a HW off (depending on the system).

If you figure out what numbers become what, you are laughing.

What model time clock is it on your wall, and what model do you want to buy??
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Reply #2 - Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:11pm
 
what model is your existing programmer
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Reply #3 - Feb 24th, 2005, 9:13am
 
Unfortunately I don't know what model it is - there's nothing else written on the front and last time I moved it even remotely away from the wall it lost power completely and I had to reset all the times.

Maybe I'll send a photo to Honeywell and they might be able to identify it further.

I was thinking of replacing it with something like this:
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=36226&id=11225

Thanks for the advice.

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Reply #4 - Feb 25th, 2005, 11:03pm
 
If you take the front off the programmer (power off ) it will have on the inside model number and wiring diagram - ID the existing cables and mark them then connect to your new programmer
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Reply #5 - Feb 26th, 2005, 10:56am
 
Excellent, thanks Greg. Not sure if I'll do this straight away - might wait until the summer when heating is not so important!
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Reply #6 - Mar 7th, 2005, 2:26am
 
If whatever you buy is just a timer, then OK, but if your new device has any thermostatic funtion then you absolutely do not want it in the kitchen...
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Reply #7 - Mar 7th, 2005, 9:48am
 
Thanks BAS, I've got a thermostat on the wall in my hallway and I'm not touching that.
I'm aware that there are timers out there with built in thermostats and had restricted my search to timers only, as you suggest.
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Reply #8 - Mar 8th, 2005, 11:42am
 
If you're replacing one I'd strongly recommend replacing both with an all-in-one wireless programmer, e.g. the Drayton Digistat RF3i

http://www.invensyscontrolseurope.com/lwwcm/connect/Invensys+Controls+Europe/Hom...
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Reply #9 - Mar 8th, 2005, 5:00pm
 
I WOULDENT!!!

was chattin to the plumber the other day after ive had a few bad experiences with wireless stuff, some of the common things are unreliability, bit tempermental, and the funnyest one was the heating comming on with the toaster.....  Grin Grin

interference prone!

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Reply #10 - Mar 8th, 2005, 6:56pm
 
I must admit, the wireless ones look pretty cool, but based purely and simply on my wireless doorbell (which stops working daily for reasons best known to itself), I wouldn't use them.
I think there must be a satellite above my house!  Shocked
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Reply #11 - Mar 8th, 2005, 11:47pm
 
Like all new great things they have there problems  Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Mar 9th, 2005, 5:23am
 
There's going to be one heck of a ruckus once these 2.4 Ghz things become really popular. You get huge contention issues which overload the individual components. They can reject non-authorised or incompatible signals on the same frequency ok, but that takes processing and send & recieve data from each device to establish comms. Not too long before you can't actually use the bandwidth as it's being used just for 'management' of the bandwidth.

Had an office network problem like this which had to be resolved by just getting the base stations to 'kill' any response demands by non-authorised IP addresses. So I set up one base station to deal with the other, then they individually only would deal with ip addresses on their respective floors. the base stations had to be instructed not to respond to any other signals, otherwise they just died randomly as they tried to process all the handshake requests.
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Reply #13 - Mar 9th, 2005, 7:32am
 
lmao, what alot of faffing about, VOTE fixed wiring, so much more reliable  Grin
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Reply #14 - Mar 9th, 2005, 8:42am
 
Office internet sharing over 3 floors in Old Tudor building in Truro. Can't even fart loudly or open the windows to let it out without planning permission. Can't fix wiring to anything internally either. I dread to think what would have happened If I'd actually visited the place! I'd have had to look at the electrical side of things then. Fixed this one by phone with his IT bod.  Wink
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Reply #15 - Mar 10th, 2005, 11:06am
 
[quote author=supersparky  link=1109185300/0#9 date=1110301216]I WOULDENT!!!

was chattin to the plumber the other day after ive had a few bad experiences with wireless stuff, some of the common things are unreliability, bit tempermental, and the funnyest one was the heating comming on with the toaster.....  Grin Grin

interference prone!

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I've had the Bosch Worcester badged one for about 3 years now - no problems.
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