Yup, though they may be happier with the 2391 too (do a 4/5 dayer for that). Copy the cert and submit it with the original plans so they can come back to check any doubts etc they may have. If you work in one or two BCB areas it's worth getting in touch to get yourself on their list of people from whom they'll accept EICs. Then you won't have to worry about loads of cert copies.

To emphasise the 'Self Certification' Schemes are just a way of avoiding Building Regulations Notification processes, but if you're in that process already then there's little point in being a scheme member.


PS: I still think Part P is duff even though I'm in the electromafia now and it has little impact for me.

[quote author=JerryD  link=1108845227/15#18 date=1111531110]I wonder how many other builders have signed up for a 'scheme' when they don't need to  ??? [/quote]

Well the real question would be, 'how many scheme operators would be honest enough to put them straight?' I suspect the attitude of most would be to keep mum and take the money, justifying it as being a way of improving safety. Who looks out for the tradesmans interests in all of this? How many independent Electricians & Builders were consulted about Part P? Nope thought so, just those groups who have a vested interest in strong arming money out of anyone they can or those who don't actually have to bear the additional costs.

Like I say I was stumping up the dosh for the Logo & support anyway so no problem there, but I'd be really fecked off if I'd been coerced into it.

[quote author=JerryD  link=1108845227/0#11 date=1111520259]

This is exactly the situation I find myself in.  As a builder of extensions I do electrical work only as part of my main trade.  However the convenience of doing the electrical work myself is considerable, not having to wait for anyone to turn up/last minute changes/unforseen bits and bobs etc.

But the cost of compliance with a 'scheme' is prohibitive.

But also charging my customers for BCO inspections is prohibitive too.

wtf is a guy to do?  I'm just out to earn a living by doing a quality job but within a fixed budget.

These ODPM tossers have competely f*cked that up for me.

I'm in favour of everyone being 'qualified' before touching leccy work but I'm NOT in favour of the COST of PartP.  For me it's a killer, tempting me to go illegal.

Good Laws don't encourage citizens to go 'illegal'  
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I know exactly how you feel, the cost to get an electrician in is crippling me.

I get charged in the region of £500 every Bathroom that I fit. The last Bathroom that was done came to £650. I've had enough of paying out this sort of money and I feel that it's simply not worth me quoting for the electrics at all (just the supp bonding).

If I itemise the electrical works out in my quote people will think I'm taking the p1ss so I have to absorb some of the cost into other areas of work.

No worries, looks ok to me  8)

btw, £650 is a rip off for electrical in bathroom, if only I was local  

i would'nt price it like that  personly, id charge for the day (between 180 and 250)
and then bill seperatly for parts

ss

[quote author=supersparky  link=1108845227/15#25 date=1111539985]i would'nt price it like that  personly, id charge for the day (between 180 and 250)
and then bill seperatly for parts

ss [/quote]

If I could get a sparks for £180 I could put away £400 onto a my pension!! I could retire in 10 years

Nah seriousley I've had words with my sparks and hes said the lowest he can go for a days work is £220 plus vat but I have to be there to help him.

[quote author=supersparky  link=1108845227/15#28 date=1111540309]what the hell lol, and your in devon right!

and im sitting here with my 250 day rate for my london work  ???

im commin to devon

ss [/quote]

Who's in Devon?? Not me I'm Surrey/Hants

devon, lol, saying nothing  

bstyle, when you say whirlpool etc, is this just what he has to give supplies to

e.g.

supply to 2x showers > whirlpool

supply and fit LV downlighters, extractor etc, seems a bit unclear

[quote author=bstyle  link=1108845227/15#29 date=1111540487]

Who's in Devon?? Not me I'm Surrey/Hants
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my mistake im still moving to surry then

lol

ss