Have you got a fork lift?

I'll leave it you in my will

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Good thinking, I hope the logic works as well with Mrs Z as it did with Mrs W

woodsmith wrote on May 27^th, 2009, 9:26pm:


thanks keith do they deliver to the other side both need an lift with long cables its the same in the top floor or basament option  
if you leave it to me in your will you can show me how to use it when you visit

Thanx Joiner, I may just take you up on your offer  

londonman wrote on May 28^th, 2009, 9:47pm:

Last time I spoke to you you said that you could not get into your workshop because it was too full!

Since whenever.

And I've never been Fensa approved, nor would I ever seek it, for three reasons:

1. Working on old properties the work is usually done under Conservation (especially if Listed or Article 4) and the work (method, design and materials) has therefore to be approved by the CO, before, during and on completion before it's signed off.

2. If within a conservation area and retaining PDR (no Article 4) then the work will be done under notice; surveyed by the BCO prior to start and inspected by them on completion.

3. Having worked with and for Fensa registered window fitters my first-hand experience is that Fensa is a licence for cowboys (even those with otherwise excellent woodworking skills) to get away with murder and it's something I wouldn't associate myself with. It's like the various trade "guilds" and "federations", if you can pay the entrance money and do the job on the day their guy comes to check you're in. It's a joke and has been since inception. Classing it in the same category as the gas or electrical regulatory bodies is an insult to them.

We've got a guy who's just started operating locally who's touting himself as a "conservation expert" and has targeted conservation areas. An ex-director of a upvc company, he's Fensa registered and fitting timber windows. He's "started to come to the notice" of local COs having fitted totally inappropriate windows which the customers, who only realised what was happening when the windows were in, had taken his word for as being right. He's done a lot of damage and, by undercutting the established guys (who quoted to do the work properly), has done them a lot of harm as well. (I'll mention that that doesn't include me, with a full order book until the middle of August.)

My work is inspected at every significant point in the process and signed off by an objective, independent party. Self-regulation is neither objective nor independent, which is why it's not for me.

Spot on, Joiner.  I hate the mass produced windows that are all wood and no glass.  Ugly brown colour. Mind you, not as bad as uPVC windows.

FENSA is a scandal, people think they are getting an insurance backed warranty through FENSA itself. Nothing could be further from the truth. They don't want to know if anything goes wrong.

But I have to pay the BCO £160 every time I fit a window.

The £160 was a guess, I couldn't remember exactly

Anyway I've just looked up my last couple of payments and they were both for £141. This was to Shrewsbury and Atcham so perhaps they had a different fee structure.